Danie,

I built my home lab entirely from Ebay.  There are some good vendors on 
there, but the phrase "buyer beware" always comes to mind.  I always look at 
the sellers feedback, not just for positive ratings but to see if they have 
sold equipment in the dollar value I am purchasing.  Look to see if the 
seller has positive feedback on equipment in that price range.  The sellers 
I can recommend (based on my own purchases and those of people I personally 
know) are:

networkhardwareresale - great packaging, good prices, quick shipment; 
bluedesperateboy - good packaging, fair prices (little high, but top notch 
equipment); ciscoware; www.whirled-routes.com; magi-tech; snootfull; lskok

If you look up their feedbacks, you will see the amount of business they do. 
  If you are after good deals, be patient about purchasing and watch for 
good products at good-to-fair prices.  It took me two months to build my 
home lab (Catalyst 5000 w/ Sup 2, 2-2501, 2-2503, 1-2502, 1-2513, 1-4000M, 
1-2620, 1-2522, 1-2511RJ, 2-2900 Cat switches, plus all serial/ethernet 
cables) for around $9500.  All of it from Ebay, and all of it worked when I 
received it.  Costly yes, but nothing beats continuous hands on experience 
with the equipment for months (six so far) on end.  Plus, I can configure 
almost anything I find in the CCNP and CCIE books I have (save some Token 
Ring and ATM of course), which is nice when you have questions about 
technologies and want to experiment to learn more about them.  Personally, I 
will rent rack time to get at the 3900/3920 switches and ATM configurations. 
  Also, I have not purchased from them, but Optsys.net has some pretty good 
deals on 2501 and 2503 router packages.  I will be purchasing an ISDN 
simulator from them later this month.

As for the Catalyst 5000 switch, you can substitute a Catalyst 2901 or a 
Catalyst 2926T (the "T" means 10/100T connections on the supervisor module 
versus the 10/100 Fiber connections on the 2926F).  Search the archives for 
additional information on rack recommendations AND Ebay sellers to steer 
clear of as the topic gets brought up at least once a month.

Best of luck to you in your studies.

My apologies to the group for any perceived waste of bandwidth on this often 
discussed topic.  After reading about it for the past seven months, I just 
wanted to drop my $.05 on the table.

Regards,

Justin Cluer

From: "Danie Strydom" 
Reply-To: "Danie Strydom" 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: CCIE Starter [7:37283]
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 13:04:08 -0500

Dear All, I've recently started active study on CCIE and have limited
experience but CCNP knowledge on Cisco kit. I'm in the process of buying
what I need and I need some advice on where to start and would like to find 
out how you guys started out.  What do I need for my home lab? I've looked 
at auctions on Ebay, is it alright to buy second-hand? Is there IOS upgrades 
available free from Cisco? If any of you know a good link to a specific 
equipment list I need I'd be very grateful, I've had a look on the Cisco 
Routing and Switching Lab equipment list but they only had the following -
no real specifics:
    2500 series routers
    2600 series routers
    3600 series routers
    4000 and 4500 series routers
    3900 series token ring switches
    Catalyst 5000 series switches

I can only afford up to 3600 series routers, what can I do about the rest?

Thank you for your help and I think this is a great group.

Kind Regards,

Danie Strydom

London, UK

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