Kelly,

Thanks so much for getting back to me.  However, I still have a few areas
that I'm a bit confused about.  Please see comments in-line.

Thanks so much again   :-)

Best Regards,
Hunt Lee



""Kelly Cobean""  wrote in message
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> Hunt,
>     The purpose of routing the summary route to Null0 is because it is a
> "shortest match" representation of all of the summarized networks, and
> therefore is not an actual network that is assigned to an interface.
Let's
> use the example you gave, where the following subnets:
>
> 172.20.10.0/24
> 172.20.15.0/30
> 172.20.15.4/30
>
> are summarized using the route 172.20.0.0/16.
>

In the routing table:

D        172.20.0.0/16 is a summary, 00:00:09, Null0

Does this summary route to the Null0 interface get automatically created
when one uses "ip summary-address eigrp 10 172.20.0.0 25.255.0.0" command?
Or do I have to create one manually with:

ip route 172.20.0.0 255.255.0.0 null0


> Jeff should really have written his explanation this way:
> "this route helps to prevent potential black holes when default AND
summary
> routes are used."  (Note the capital AND, indicating that you are using
both
> a default route AND summary routes, not either/or.)
>
> The summary 172.20.0.0/16 includes lots of potential subnets that aren't
> being summarized.  If the routers routing table didn't include a route for
> the summary, then when receiving a packet destined for, let's say
> 172.20.55.5 (just a random address that isn't within the range of one of
the
> 3 routes above, but still within the 172.20.0.0/16 summary), it would look
> in the routing table and select the default route (0/0) because there is
no
> more specific match for the destination address.  This is a waste of time
> because by advertising the summary network to all of the other routers,
you
> are telling your EIGRP network that all routes that fall within the bounds
> of 172.20.0.0/16 are downstream from this router.  Because you are doing
> this, there can't possibly be a host 172.20.55.5 upstream (i.e. toward the
> default route) from this router.  Therefore, any packet addressed to a
> destination that isn't specifically addressed by one of the networks being
> summarized (i.e. a more specific route), you want to discard it (Null0)
> because there is no network or host matching the Destination IP.  Let's
look
> at what would happen to a packet destined for 172.20.55.5 without this
route
> to Null 0.
>
> Step 1 - routerA receives a packet destined for 172.20.55.5
> Step 2 - routerA looks in the routing table for the longest match network
to
> route the packet to.
> Step 3 - There is no specific route to the dest. network, so it sends the
> packet to the default route with a next hop of routerB


Assuming the RouterB interface to RouterA is 172.10.10.1/24

Unlike OSPF & RIP, I know that both IGRP & EIGRP don't understand the "ip
route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 172.10.10.1" command, IGRP & EIGRP needs to use "ip
default-network" command.

However, how do you set a Next-hop IP / or Exit Interface with this
command - to point it to the next hop of RouterB?


> Step 4 - routerB receives the packet destined for 172.20.55.5
> Step 5 - routerB looks in it's routing table and finds a matching network,
> which is the summary advertised by routerA


For these following 3 routes, if one summarized them with a more specific
summary route, e.g. 172.20.8.0 /21, the IP address 172.20.55.5 will no
longer be summarized by the summary route, so wouldn't this fix the problem?

172.20.10.0/24
172.20.15.0/30
172.20.15.4/30


> Step 6 - routerB sends the packet to the next-hop router for the
> summary-route 172.20.0.0/16, which is (routerA)
> Step 7 - See step 1
> !!!  Routing Loop  !!!  The packet will bounce back and forth until the
TTL
> is exceeded, then get dropped.
>
> Let's look at the same packet with the route to Null0 for the summary on
the
> router that is advertising it (routerA)
>
> Step 1 - routerA receives a packet destined for 172.20.55.5
> Step 2 - routerA looks in the routing table for the longest match network
to
> route the packet to.
> Step 3 - routerA finds a longest-match in the routing table -
172.20.0.0/16
> Next-hop - Null0
> Step 4 - routerA discards the packet.
>
>
> Does this all make sense?  You could get away without this route to null0
on
> the advertising router if your routes being summarized covered every
address
> in the summary range, but as this is not always the case, they include the
> route to Null0 to protect valuable resources on the router from being
> consumed routing packets that have no destination.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Kelly Cobean, CCNP, CCSA, ACSA, MCSE, MCP+I
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Hunt Lee
> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 12:20 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: EIGRP Question [7:36770]
>
>
> Hi all,
>   I have an EIGRP question.  It would be greatly appreciated if someone
can
> shed some light on this.
>
> I found the following Routing Table from TCP / IP Vol1 by Jeff Doyle.  But
I
> don't understand why a summary route would be pointing to Null0?
>
> Jeff explains it as "this route helps to prevent potential black holes
when
> default and summary routes are used"... which confuses me even more   :(
>
>
> Show ip route
>
> D        192.168.16.0/24 [90/3219456] via 172.20.15.5, 00:41:41, Serial 0
> C        192.168.17.0/24 is directly connected, Ethernet 0
> C        192.168.18.0/24 is variably subnetted, 2 subnets, 2 masks
> D EX  172.25.0.0/16 [170/2221056] via 172.20.15.5, 00:41:48, Serial 0
>         172.20.0.0/16 is variably subnetted, 2 subnets, 2 masks
> D        172.20.10.0/24 [90/2195456] via 172.20.15.5, 00:41:48, Serial 0
> C        172.20.15.4/30 is directly connected, Serial 0
> D        172.20.15.0/30 [90/2681856] via 172.20.15.5, 00:41:48, Serial 0
> D        172.20.0.0/16 is a summary, 00:00:09, Null0
>
>
> Please help...
>
> Best Regards,
> Hunt Lee




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