Beating up layer 8 guys and girls with a burned down router over the had
typically helps...

Jeffrey Reed wrote:
> 
> Im rather new to the Cisco world but have with other vendors. I need some
> help with design Best Practices. Recently there was a post that told us
> the max switch hop in a network should be about 7 hops. As a reseller, I am
> working with a customer who has the following network design:
> 
> Internet-3600-PIX-6500(r)-G-6500(s)-G-5500-5000-3500-1900-10M-3COMhub
> 
> Unless indicated by a G or 10M, the link between devices is 100M. The
> 6500(r) does all the routing, the 6500(s) is where about 7 5500s hang off
> on Gig fiber. Each 5500 has about 3-4 5000s connected with 100M fiber.
Each
> 5000 has about 10-12 3500s which have about 8-12 1900s. Each of the
1900s
> have about 4-8 3COM 10M hubs with students. Their teachers and admin staff
> sit on 10m & 100M links in the 5500s & 5000s. The 6500(s) has about 200
> users via 100M. All the links support trunking until you hit a 1900. Ive
> over-simplified for this example, but I think you get the idea.
> 
> This network just sort of grew this way over the years. Older equipment is
> pushed out to the edge as newer equipment is installed in the core. They
> report a lot of random problems all blamed on the network. Their firmware
is
> pretty up to date and the hardware is reliable.
> 
> While they are still using AppleTalk, a little IPX and mostly IP, I believe
> their network is too complex with all the switch hops. I want to propose a
> redesign that puts a user no more than three hops from the core 6500. This
> may mean new single mode fiber in some locations and upgrades to hardware
in
> other locations. Im not looking for design help, Im looking for a smooth
> way of telling the customer their design is the problem, not the hardware
> itself.
> 
> Any suggestions on how you have approached a customer or better yet, your
> boss, on the need to have a proper design, even if it means additional
> investment in fiber and effort to implement??
> 
> I appreciate the help from this group
> 
> Jeff
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Sergei Gerasimtchouk
SiteSmith, Inc. 
888.898.7667




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