Danny,

Sometimes even people who work for Cisco, even SE's who may by CCIE's, make
mistakes.  The router never lies:

3620(config)#int ethernet 0/0.1
3620(config-subif)#encap ?
  dot1Q  IEEE 802.1Q Virtual LAN
  sde    IEEE 802.10 Virtual LAN - Secure Data Exchange

Notice this is an Ethernet, not FastEthernet, and that it does indeed allow
802.1q trunking.

ISL, on the other hand, does require FastEthernet.  So maybe that is where
the confusion lies.

Regards,
Kent

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Danny Andaluz, CCNP
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 7:25 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: ISL Trunking from a h/w's perspective [7:39246]


no you can't.  I got straight from cisco that they have to be 100 meg
full-dux interfaces.
""MADMAN""  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Actually on some platforms with the right IOS you can trunk 10 meg ports:
>
> C3660B(config)#inter e2/0.1
> C3660B(config-subif)#encap dot1 1
> C3660B(config-subif)#
>
>   Dave
>
> danny wrote:
>
> > The router's ethernet must be 100 full dux.  You configure subinterfaces
on
> > the ethernet.  a trunking protocol must be configured on each sub with
the
> > corresponding vlan #.  The router will route between Vlans.
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> > Danny
> > ""George Siaw""  wrote in message
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Thanks for all your responses.
> > >
> > > One last question though. For external router, routing between vlans
if
> > > I have just one FastEthernet interface on the router can I route
between
> > > vlans?
> > >
> > > George.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf
Of
> > > Scott H.
> > > Sent: 23 March 2002 00:53
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: ISL Trunking from a h/w's perspective [7:39246]
> > >
> > > The only time the SC0 interface comes into play is for telnet into the
> > > box.
> > > If you have any 100 MB ports on your switch, you can run trunking.
> > >
> > > set trunk (mod/port) on isl
> > >
> > > If this trunk is running into a router, you need to create the
> > > subinterfaces
> > > on the router to enable routing between VLANS.
> > >
> > > int fa1/0.100
> > > ip address (the subnet of the vlan)
> > > encap isl (the vlan #)
> > >
> > > HTH,
> > > Scott
> > >
> > > ""George Siaw""  wrote in message
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > Do I need an Sc0 port when routing between Vlans? However, there's
no
> > > > uplink module on neither of my supervisor engines. Would you know a
> > > s/w
> > > > work around without having to buy the module?
> > > >
> > > > George.
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Larry Letterman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: 23 March 2002 00:17
> > > > To: George Siaw; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: RE: ISL Trunking from a h/w's perspective [7:39246]
> > > >
> > > > You dont have to configure SC0 interface to do isl or dot1q. Its
only
> > > > needed
> > > > for management, telnet etc...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Larry Letterman
> > > > Cisco Systems
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
Of
> > > > George Siaw
> > > > Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 3:45 PM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: ISL Trunking from a h/w's perspective [7:39246]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Guys,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Any ideas as how I can configure isl trunking without an Sc0 port on
> > > the
> > > > supervisor engines? Can I configure on of the ports to assume this
> > > > position i.e. Sc0? If so what are the cmds?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > George.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Configs as below:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Console> (enable) sh mod 1
> > > >
> > > > Mod Module-Name         Ports Module-Type           Model
> > > Serial-Num
> > > > Status
> > > >
> > > > --- ------------------- ----- --------------------- ---------
> > > ---------
> > > > -------
> > > >
> > > > 1   ENGINE-1            0     Supervisor III        WS-X5530
> > > 012144234
> > > > ok
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Mod MAC-Address(es)                        Hw     Fw         Sw
> > > >
> > > > --- -------------------------------------- ------ ----------
> > > > -----------------
> > > >
> > > > 1   00-50-f0-0c-64-00 to 00-50-f0-0c-67-ff 3.0    3.1.2      4.3(1a)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Mod Sub-Type Sub-Model Sub-Serial Sub-Hw
> > > >
> > > > --- -------- --------- ---------- ------
> > > >
> > > > 1   NFFC+    WS-F5531  0012153640 1.0
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Console> (enable) sh mod
> > > >
> > > > Mod Module-Name         Ports Module-Type           Model
> > > Serial-Num
> > > > Status
> > > >
> > > > --- ------------------- ----- --------------------- ---------
> > > ---------
> > > > -------
> > > >
> > > > 1   ENGINE-1            0     Supervisor III        WS-X5530
> > > 012144234
> > > > ok
> > > >
> > > > 2   ENGINE-2            0     Supervisor III        WS-X5530
> > > 010867093
> > > > standby
> > > >
> > > > 3   CCIE_LAB-0          24    10/100BaseTX Ethernet WS-X5224
> > > 012154555
> > > > ok
> > > >
> > > > 4   CCIE_LAB-1          24    10/100BaseTX Ethernet WS-X5224
> > > 009616952
> > > > ok
> > > >
> > > > 5   CCIE_LAB-2          24    10/100BaseTX Ethernet WS-X5224
> > > 016372420
> > > > ok
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Mod MAC-Address(es)                        Hw     Fw         Sw
> > > >
> > > > --- -------------------------------------- ------ ----------
> > > > -----------------
> > > >
> > > > 1   00-50-f0-0c-64-00 to 00-50-f0-0c-67-ff 3.0    3.1.2      4.3(1a)
> > > >
> > > > 2   00-50-f0-0c-64-00 to 00-50-f0-0c-67-ff 2.0    3.1.2      4.3(1a)
> > > >
> > > > 3   00-50-53-c4-42-08 to 00-50-53-c4-42-1f 1.4    3.1(1)     4.3(1a)
> > > >
> > > > 4   00-10-7b-83-36-d8 to 00-10-7b-83-36-ef 1.4    3.1(1)     4.3(1a)
> > > >
> > > > 5   00-30-b6-29-95-48 to 00-30-b6-29-95-5f 1.5    3.1(1)     4.3(1a)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Mod Sub-Type Sub-Model Sub-Serial Sub-Hw
> > > >
> > > > --- -------- --------- ---------- ------
> > > >
> > > > 1   NFFC+    WS-F5531  0012153640 1.0
> > > >
> > > > 2   NFFC     WS-F5521  0010866222 1.1
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Console> (enable) sh ver
> > > >
> > > > WS-C5505 Software, Version McpSW: 4.3(1a) NmpSW: 4.3(1a)
> > > >
> > > > Copyright (c) 1995-1998 by Cisco Systems
> > > >
> > > > NMP S/W compiled on Nov 23 1998, 15:22:34
> > > >
> > > > MCP S/W compiled on Nov 23 1998, 15:19:30
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > System Bootstrap Version: 3.1.2
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hardware Version: 1.0  Model: WS-C5505  Serial #: 066526573
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Mod Port Model      Serial #  Versions
> > > >
> > >
> --- ---- ---------- --------- ----------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > 1   0    WS-X5530   012144234 Hw : 3.0
> > > >
> > > >                               Fw : 3.1.2
> > > >
> > > >                               Fw1: 4.2(1)
> > > >
> > > >                               Sw : 4.3(1a)
> > > >
> > > > 2   0    WS-X5530   010867093 Hw : 2.0
> > > >
> > > >                               Fw : 3.1.2
> > > >
> > > >                               Fw1: 4.2(1)
> > > >
> > > >                               Sw : 4.3(1a)
> > > >
> > > > 3   24   WS-X5224   012154555 Hw : 1.4
> > > >
> > > >                               Fw : 3.1(1)
> > > >
> > > >                               Sw : 4.3(1a)
> > > >
> > > > 4   24   WS-X5224   009616952 Hw : 1.4
> > > >
> > > >                               Fw : 3.1(1)
> > > >
> > > >                               Sw : 4.3(1a)
> > > >
> > > > 5   24   WS-X5224   016372420 Hw : 1.5
> > > >
> > > >                               Fw : 3.1(1)
> > > >
> > > >                               Sw : 4.3(1a)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >        DRAM                    FLASH                   NVRAM
> > > >
> > > > Module Total   Used    Free    Total   Used    Free    Total Used
> > > Free
> > > >
> > > > ------ ------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ----- -----
> > > -----
> > > >
> > > > 1       32640K  13381K  19259K   8192K   3984K   4208K  512K  116K
> > > 396K
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Uptime is 0 day, 0 hour, 13 minutes
> > > > _________________________________________________________
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> --
> David Madland
> CCIE# 2016
> Sr. Network Engineer
> Qwest Communications Inc.
> 612-664-3367
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]




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