Sam,

Yes that back-to-back config works, yet you will not gain the knowledge and
skills that I think you are after.

It's true, you do need a third router to be the frame cloud, but that
doesn't buy you much either. The key is to make the frame switch, also a DTE
Hub router. However, you must have at least 4 interfaces (like a 2520). This
will allow you to connect a DCE/DTE cable between two of the ports, thus
allowing the 2520 to also be a hub router.

As you grow your lab, and add two more routers, the 2520 can still serve a
frame switch for 4 routers, it just can't be a hub router anymore.

Here is the config that makes this work - remember ports 2 and 3 are
connected with a back-to-back cable.

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2120 Hub router with 4 interfaces, interfaces S2 and S3 are looped via a
DCE/DTE cable, R2 is connected to S0, R3 is connected to S1.

This config allows R1 (the 2520) to not only become a frame switch for R2,
and R3, but it allows R1 to be a DTE device (or hub router).

R1 Config:

frame-relay switching

interface Serial0
 description -- Serial Connection to R2
 clockrate 64000
 bandwidth 64
 no ip address
 encapsulation frame-relay
 frame-relay intf-type dce
 frame-relay route 100 interface Serial 2 150

interface Serial1
 description -- Serial Connection to R3
 clockrate 64000
 bandwidth 64
 no ip address
 encapsulation frame-relay
 frame-relay intf-type dce
 frame-relay route 200 interface Serial 2 250

interface Serial2
 description -- To Terminating FR DTE sub-if -- S3.x
 clockrate 64000
 bandwidth 64
 no ip address
 encapsulation frame-relay
 frame-relay intf-type dce
 frame-relay route 150 interface Serial0 100
 frame-relay route 250 interface Serial1 200

interface Serial3
 description -- Terminated FR DTE sub-if
 bandwidth 64
 no ip address
 encapsulation frame-relay

interface Serial3.1 point-to-point
 bandwidth 64
 ip address 192.168.1.1 255.255.255.0
 frame-relay interface-dlci 150
!
interface Serial3.2 point-to-point
 bandwidth 64
 ip address 192.168.2.1 255.255.255.0
 frame-relay interface-dlci 250

Have fun,
Vinnie

""sam sneed""  wrote in message
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> Is this possible? On Cisco's site, their example uses 2 1604 routers. I
have
> a 2501 router and would like to know if this works before i buy a
2611.Need
> to learn Frame Relay.
>
>  Thanks alot  in advance.




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