I expect this comment relates more to IBGP where direct reachability is not 
the norm.

At 06:55 PM 4/6/2002 -0500, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
>At 01:10 PM 4/6/02, JohnZ wrote:
> >"IP connectivity has to be achieved via a protocol different from BGP;
> >otherwise, the session will be in a race condition. An example of a race
> >condition follows: neighbors can reach one another via some IGP, the BGP
> >session gets established, and the BGP updates get exchanged.
>
>This must be referring to external BGP peers that are not directly
>connected and must rely on an IGP for connectivity? (EBGP multihop?)
>Normally BGP peers are on a LAN or WAN and can reach each other directly,
>simply with IP and TCP. I know that's not your question, but I thought it
>was worth mentioning that the example is kind of a weird situation.
>
> >  The IGP
> >connection goes away for some reason, but still the BGP TCP session is up
> >because neighbors can still reach each other via BGP. Eventually the
session
> >will go down because the BGP session cannot depend on BGP itself for
> >neighbor reachability"
> >
> >Wouldn't the same condition occur if reachability is acheived via a
> >different protocol.
>
>If the other protocol fails, yes. That's what he's saying. The race
>condition occurs when BGP must rely on BGP for connectivity. This should
>never happen. The routers can normally reach each other directly with
>TCP/IP or via an IGP. But if the BGP protocol had been written such that
>BGP depended on BGP, that's a race condition. It's also a race condition
>when the other protocol fails and BGP is once again depending on BGP.
>
>I hope that makes sense.
>
>Priscilla
>
> >If the route becomes unreachable then BGP conectivity
> >will still be lost.What's the advantage of making sure that "race
condition"
> >is avoided.
> >
> >
> >
> >Thanks.
> >
> >JZ
>________________________
>
>Priscilla Oppenheimer
>http://www.priscilla.com




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