Looks like standard warranty wording to me.  The Telco equipment
manufacturers that I work with, in addition to the Cisco work that I do, say
pretty much the same thing will happen to warranties if you use
after-market, 3-party remanufactured devices.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ismail Al-Shelh" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 08:56
Subject: RE: Might be of InCisco GBIC Sourcing & Support Policy [7:41591]


> Me not.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 12:07 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Might be of InCisco GBIC Sourcing & Support Policy [7:41576]
>
>
> What's wrong with the message below... sounds fair to me..
>
>
> ""Ismail Al-Shelh""  wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Its so Obvious that Cisco is trying to be like Microsoft by monopolizing
> the
> > market.
> >
> > Ismail Al-shelh
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Matthew Crane [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 1:55 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Might be of InCisco GBIC Sourcing & Support Policy [7:41476]
> >
> >
> > April 10, 2002
> >
> > Cisco GBIC Sourcing & Support Policy
> >
> > We are continuing to receive questions concerning the consequences of
> Cisco
> > end users acquiring GBICs (Gigabit Interface Converter) modules from
> > non-Cisco sourced third parties or directly from GBIC suppliers for
> > deployment in Cisco routers and switches.
> >
> > Apparently there is still some confusion on what Cisco's position and
> policy
> > is in respect of these third party GBIC's, which is why I would like to
> > summarize those for you and highlight the main points. I would also like
> to
> > take this opportunity to outline what Cisco would expect from you as a
> > Channel Partner when it comes to you supplying non-Cisco GBIC's together
> > with Cisco equipment to end users.
> >
> > Cisco's policy:
> > Products from non-Cisco sources do not qualify for Cisco support and may
> not
> > be compatible with hardware, power, or software requirements. Cisco
> sourced
> > GBIC's can be easily identified by the Cisco logo and trademarks on the
> > label. If a GBIC does not have the Cisco label and trademarks on it,
then
> it
> > has not been sourced from Cisco and is subject to the conditions
outlined
> > below.
> >
> > GBIC's acquired through non-Cisco sources will be subject to the
following
> > conditions:
> >
> > 1) Cisco TAC is not under an obligation to support any non-Cisco GBIC
> > modules;
> >
> > 2) Cisco SMARTnet will not cover non-Cisco GBIC modules;
> >
> > 3) Cisco does not guarantee the performance or results you may obtain by
> > using a non-Cisco GBIC;
> >
> > 4) In the event that an end user experiences a support issue that Cisco
> > determines is caused by use of a third party GBIC, Cisco will not
provide
> > warranty support or support under SMARTNet or another Cisco support
> program
> > for that issue. On the other hand, where a product fault or defect
occurs
> in
> > the network and Cisco concludes that the fault or defect is not
> attributable
> > to the use of a GBIC installed by our customers or partners, Cisco will
> > continue to provide support for the affected product under warranty or a
> > Cisco support program. The nature of the defect or error is the key to
> > determining what Cisco's support obligations are.
> >
> > Cisco sources GBIC's from third party suppliers, who agree to follow
Cisco
> > quality standards.  Sometimes, Cisco disqualifies a supplier because of
> > quality issues with that supplier's product, or for other reasons (i.e.
> EMI
> > or power requirements). Disqualified suppliers may continue to sell
their
> > GBIC's and please note that they or parties that have purchased from
them
> > may claim that their GBIC's are Cisco approved. Such statements are at
> best
> > unreliable and our customers should understand that only by sourcing
> GBIC's
> > directly from Cisco or a Cisco Authorized Channel, can our customers be
> > confident they are getting Cisco approved modules that will qualify for
> > Cisco support (Cisco sourced GBICs can be identified by the Cisco logo
and
> > trademarks on the label). We are taking appropriate legal action against
> > suppliers using such false and misleading statements.
> >
> >
> > What does Cisco expect from its Authorized Channels?
> > Obviously we believe strongly that our GBIC's are superior in terms of
> > quality and performance to any non-Cisco GBIC. Nevertheless, you may in
> > certain instances prefer to resell third party GBIC's. As stated above,
> this
> > may occasionally give rise to support and warranty issues, and may cause
> > confusion with the end users. In order to prevent such issues and to
> protect
> > Cisco's brand and reputation we would like to ask you to observe the
> > following guidelines when reselling non-Cisco GBIC's together with or
> > already installed in any Cisco products you are reselling:
> >
> >     Inform the end user of the fact that he is receiving a non-Cisco
GBIC;
> >     Inform the end user that such a non-Cisco GBIC will not qualify for
> > Cisco support;
> >     Inform the end user of the brand of the non-Cisco GBIC and how they
> can
> > obtain support on those products and what the warranty terms are.
> >
> > Although this statement specifically covers GBIC's, the same issues
arise
> > with other third party components e.g. memory or cables.  With regard to
> > those products the same principles as set out in this letter apply.
> >
> > For any specific questions please contact your Cisco channel account
> > manager.
> >
> > Yours Sincerely
> >
> > Paris G Arey
> > VP EMEA Channels & Alliances
> > Cisco Systems Inc.




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