Maybe Cisco discovered there is more to networks then just switching and
routing:) Other people may not recognize the certs by name, but they are
a great guide to get a diversified skillset. Maybe someone needs to
specialize, and learn that for there job, for instance content
switching. I have chosen to do the specializations with my CCNP. I use
certifications as a guide for my career learning, not really contest, or
trying to prove something. And, believe it or not, I am one of those
people who would like to have a wide array of skills and CCNP, then just
CCIE. I will say that I am planning on going CCIE, but Security instead
of R&S.

-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Rogers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 3:25 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: A new cert, CCCE [7:44549]

I can just see it now. "I have 6 different CCx certs and that's equal to
CCIE."  -NOT!

I mean outside this group and other's like who really knows about these
type
of certs?
Mgr's., HR, Clients - I don't think so...

Are they gearing up for a CCIE Voice track I wonder with all this VoIP
stuff
coming down the pipe and these new jr.cert tracks?

Now there's a world of politics onto itself in the enterprise arena.
Data
group taking over Telco group... :-0

Eric
----- Original Message -----
From: "MADMAN" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 11:04 AM
Subject: A new cert, CCCE [7:44549]


> This was sent to me by a friend.  Though a bit sarcastic it made me
> pause for a second and realize  you could assemble on hell of a sig
file
> with CC preceeding it
>
>   Dave
>
>
> Pretty soon you are going to need to be a CCCE (Cisco Certified
> Certification
> Expert)just to understand what all the different certifications stand
> for!
>
>
>
> Dear ,
>
> Expand your Cisco IP telephony expertise in design, support and
> operations.
>
> Cisco is offering two new Cisco Qualified Specialists focused
> certifications, the Cisco IP Telephony Design Specialist and
> the Cisco IP Telephony Operations Specialist.  The certifications
> will be available on May 14, 2002.
>
> A Cisco IP Telephony Design Specialist must have a valid CCDA
> certification, and pass the EVVOD exam 9E0-411 and DQoS exam 9E0-601.
> This focused certification is based on knowledge and/or course
> completion of Enterprise Voice over Data Design (EVoDD), and
> Deploying Quality of Service (DQoS).
>
> The Cisco IP Telephony Operations Specialist must have a valid CCNA
> certification and pass the IPTT 9E0-421 and DQoS exam 9E0-601. This
> certification is based on knowledge and/or course completion of
> Troubleshooting, and Deploying Quality of Service (DQoS).
>
> The recommended training for the Cisco IP Telephony Design Specialist
> is the EVoDD course, and the DQoS course, which map to the
> corresponding same-named exams. The recommended training for the
> Cisco IP Telephony Operations Specialist is the Troubleshooting
> course and the DQoS course, which map to the corresponding same-
> named exams.  All courses are available through Cisco Learning
> Partners and on the Partner E-Learning Connection. Visit
> http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/ecampaign/misc for the
> latest details or visit the Cisco Learning Locator at
>
>
http://www.cisco.com/pcgi-bin/front.x/wwtraining/CELC/index.cgi?action=I
ncSe
archForm
> for a complete schedule of available courses.
>
> Both focused certifications are valid for two years. These new
> focused certifications add to the knowledge of a Cisco IP
> Telephony Support Specialist. The Cisco IP Telephony Support
> Specialist provides the solid foundation in Cisco voice and Cisco
> CallManager technology needed for the new troubleshooting and design
> focused certifications.
>
> Cisco Partner Reminder: To use your Cisco Career Certification or
> Cisco Qualified Specialist focused certification toward any Cisco
> Partner Specializations, you must read and accept the terms of the
> Cisco Career Certifications Agreement. Failure to complete this step
> prohibits processing of any certifications or specializations
> applications. Completion of the Cisco IP Telephony Design Specialist
> certification fulfills the requirements for the system engineer role
> in the IPT-Revised Partner Specialization. And the Cisco IP Telephony
> Operations Specialist certification fulfills the requirements for the
> operations specialist role in the IPT-Revised Partner Specialization.
>
> Design, implement, and support a Cisco IP telephony solution today.
> Visit: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/ecampaign/misc
>
>
>
> --
> David Madland
> Sr. Network Engineer
> CCIE# 2016
> Qwest Communications Int. Inc.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 612-664-3367
>
> "Emotion should reflect reason not guide it"




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