I'm not saying to close the thread or not, although I think the moderators (I am one) are starting to block messages that come across as personal attacks.
What I see is the fundamental misperception in this thread is an assumption there is a binary choice between experience and new training. I freely admit there are experienced people that have had 1 year of experience 20 times. But other experienced people have BOTH the experience and the in-depth protocol knowledge, which puts them in a position to learn even faster -- if they want to. Earlier in the thread, someone said "would you put something in production without lab testing?" As with everything else in networking, "it depends." A large ISP, for example, will test a new IOS release in a lab, but they can't possibly have a lab that will let them see the effects of the change on tens of thousands of routers. This is true of router manufacturers as well. For very large networks, it may be possible to use true (i.e., Monte Carlo) simulation or mathematical analysis. But experience does have a major role in Internet backbone engineering. Let me simply say that backbone engineering is at a level far more specialized and complex than the CCIE level, and there haven't been formalized ways to learn it. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=44714&t=44714 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]