you know ,,,
i amreally starting to get fed-up with the "lets bash howard" brigade... i have and will continue to put your teaching`s (howard) into practise... this IS A COMMUNITY of professionals who HELP eachother.... i have been in recept of many tips form a great many CCIE/CCNA/CCNP`s .... i will happily take any help form anyone regardless of the Cert.....i have myself helped a CCIE and i am only a CCNP... this help was provided because as per most of us we dont work in enviroments were we have access to every piece of equipment there is on the planet.. so i help him ..... i have also been helped by a CCNA.... is he any less a human bieng.....NO.... let us remeber why we signed up ...to HELP SHARE and LEARN... Pleasent Weekend study.,.. steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Howard C. Berkowitz" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 2:49 PM Subject: Re: Logic and Lab Rats [7:44714] > I'm not saying to close the thread or not, although I think the > moderators (I am one) are starting to block messages that come across > as personal attacks. > > What I see is the fundamental misperception in this thread is an > assumption there is a binary choice between experience and new > training. I freely admit there are experienced people that have had 1 > year of experience 20 times. But other experienced people have BOTH > the experience and the in-depth protocol knowledge, which puts them > in a position to learn even faster -- if they want to. > > Earlier in the thread, someone said "would you put something in > production without lab testing?" As with everything else in > networking, "it depends." A large ISP, for example, will test a new > IOS release in a lab, but they can't possibly have a lab that will > let them see the effects of the change on tens of thousands of > routers. This is true of router manufacturers as well. > > For very large networks, it may be possible to use true (i.e., Monte > Carlo) simulation or mathematical analysis. But experience does have > a major role in Internet backbone engineering. Let me simply say > that backbone engineering is at a level far more specialized and > complex than the CCIE level, and there haven't been formalized ways > to learn it. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=44969&t=44969 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]