throwing money is the obvious and easy thing to do. OTOH, lots of businesses
seem to have extra money, recession of no. Besides, what do you expect as a
solution from the telcos? ;->

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> Is look at the traffic and figure out what it is and if it's necessary.  3
> mbs is some serious bandwidth for one spoke site.  Is it database lookups
on
> some apps?  Perhaps it makes sense to put a database in the remote site
and
> synchronize.  Voice/video traffic?  make sure your QoS infrastructure is
up
> to date.  Is it internet traffic? Perhaps some policies would help, or
> perhaps the third T1 should go from the remote site directly to an ISP.
Is
> it garbage (i.e. SAP, DHCP, DNS, routing protocols, proxied arp, etc)?
Then
> cut that B (as in b) S (as in s) out.

CL: In the book "Advanced IP Routing in Cisco Networks" Slattery and Burton
discuss a bandwidth analysis in the TCP/IP Overview chapter. This gets back
to the original studies regarding TCP windowing done by Van Jacobson and
reported in RFC 1323

CL: it has been a while since I have done it, but Optsys has an application
that allows one to simulate a data netowrk and do some what-if's with
bandwidth. I can recall looking at a test network with a 128K link, and the
simulation showing that traffic was chiking the link. doubling that link to
a simulated 256K ended the congestion ( according to the simulation ) Of
course, the folks running the study - a telco - were pushing the T1 solution
because "more is better"

CL: which gets me to ask - ever wonder why telcos offer Fractional T's, and
Frame and ATM CIR's in the increments they do? most of them do not offer
increments of 64K ( one channel ) they have increments of 56K, 128K, 384K,
768K and full T1, as an example. Why? One answer might be to maximize their
revenues ;->


>
> Anyone can throw more money at a problem.  As professionals, we need to
> throw brains first.

CL: using brains takes time. throwing hardware / bandwidth at the problem is
faster and easier. and for us overworked net engineers and sales engineers
may not have the luxury of doing so. ;->




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