LOL..
I gotcha..


>From: "Eric Rogers" 
>Reply-To: "Eric Rogers" 
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: PDM [7:52870]
>Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 02:36:05 GMT
>
>Remember, firewalls and routers perform two different functions. The PDM is
>being developed to counter Checkpoint's. Checkpoint is the leader in the
>firewall market and it has an excellent GUI. Granted there are issue's with
>CP concerning licensing, OS hardening and support. In a large production
>firewall environment it's really nice to have a GUI and not go blind trying
>to read straight text on a daily basis. Rules that I can see "quickly" with
>color a GUI. Logs that I can see "quickly" with a color GUI.
>
>Imagine a company with 20,000 people spread across a continent with a dozen
>server farms. Now imagine a over hundred or so rules placed on the 
>firewalls
>to facilitate the needs of the various business groups. Then you take 9 to
>15 fulltime admin's managing this on a 24x7 basis and you'll find just how
>quickly you wish you had that GUI come your shift. Think about it. Somehow
>there's a server hack and suddenly you've got your boss breathing down your
>neck and your boss' boss breathing down your neck too, all the while your
>scrolling through the CLI trying to figure out who, what, where. Finally,
>printing out the entire running config and going through it line by line
>with a color marker.
>
>I've seen this happen. It's an ugly sight.
>
>Just some food for thought...
>
>-Eric
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Kevin O'Gilvie"
>To:
>Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 6:44 PM
>Subject: PDM [7:52870]
>
>
> > PDM
> > PDM
> > PDM..
> >
> > I dont see why anyone uses PDM..
> > With 6.X you can create groups, objects etc..Which really reduces the
>lines
> > in your config..
> > I am CLI all the way!!!
> > Is there a PDM for routers too??
> > LOL!!
> >
> > Just my opinion..
> >
> > CLI helps you learn the IOS much better then PDM..
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Kevin
> >
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