U have to connect a switch even if the connection doesnt break between the
routers. Bcoz, for HSRP to work, both the routers ethernet interfaces and
their VIP sholud be in the same subnet. If u directly connect them in a
firewall, its not possible as each interface in a firewall will be of a
different network.
So the design would be like this:

RouterA        RouterB
    |                    |
  -----------------
 |    Switch            |
 ------------------
              |
           PIX
              |
        Ethernet

Rgds,
Vamsi

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From: 
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Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 4:03 PM
Subject: RE: Need help with Simple BGP Solution [7:53936]


> The BGP part will be easy to do.  HSRP will be easy to do however if you
are
> going to have 2 router (each running EBGP to the ISP) that connect to a
> firewall (whether it is a PIX or not) understand that most firewalls do
not
> pass Multicast traffic.  So HSRP will break because hellos will not be
> passed along from one router to another so therefore adjacencies will not
be
> formed.  Dave is correct that some firewalls do break when they receive
> traffic from another port that they sent it out on.  So if you have
> something like this (sorry if the ASCII gets messed up when it this email
> gets posted):
>
> RouterA    RouterB
>    |   |
>    | HSRP   |
>      Firewall
>   |
> LAN
>
>
> It will not work.  You will probably have to front end the routers
ethernet
> interfaces that would be connecting into the Firewall with a small switch
so
> that you can pass the HSRP traffic.  If someone has a better idea, please
> post it.
>
>
>
> Mario Puras
> SoluNet Technical Support
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: MADMAN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 10:13 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Need help with Simple BGP Solution [7:53936]
>
>
> Wayne Jang wrote:
> >
> > have a customer that wants to implement BGP at his office.  They want to
> > have complete redundancy, not load balancing.  They have some users
coming
> > in from the outside for VPN and email servers.
> >
> > They will be using T-1s to two separate ISPs and will use a separate
> router
> > for each ISP connection.
> >
> > My questions are as follows:
> >
> > Can I use just one firewall? (I could run HSRP on the two routers,
> firewall
> > would just forward to the phantom default gateway)
> > They currently own a Sonicwall Pro 100.  I would prefer they use a PIX,
is
> > there any reason why they can't use the Sonic?
> >
> > Do ISPs charge subcribers extra for advertising routes through the other
> ISP
> > (BGP)?
>
>   Not that I'm aware of.
>
> >
> > I also want to have default routes to the ISP.  I don't believe this
> > customer needs the added routing accuracy, if it means they will need
> > routers with 128 MB or ram.
>
>   If each router has only a defualt route to it respective provider and
> your doing HSRP you will only use 1 ISP for your egrees traffic, is that
> acceptable since most customers want to utilize both connections their
> paying for.
>
>   I don't know about Sonic but I have seen firewalls that break if you
> send traffic out router A and it returns via router B.
>
>   Dave
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Wayne
> --
> David Madland
> CCIE# 2016
> Sr. Network Engineer
> Qwest Communications
> 612-664-3367
>
> "You don't make the poor richer by making the rich poorer." --Winston
> Churchill
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