Yes, we'll need strong business skills and an understanding of the business
applications that ride on the networks and actually make some money. Or
maybe better muscles. I saw on the news that the Pacific Maritime
Association offered the longshoremen a raise for the highest paying job to
$137,000. The longshoremen turned it down. Unbelievable. Hey, I'm generally
a bleeding liberal, but this port closure thing p!sses me off.

Priscilla

nrf wrote:
> 
> 
> >
> > Sorry to be so pessimistic. NRF - got anything to add?
> 
> Oh, I got lots to add.  But let me try to keep it short by
> couching things
> in the following bullet points:
> 
> *If you want money, somebody has to be ultimately paying. 
> Money in, money
> out.
> 
> Cisco is not a mint.  No vendor is a mint.  Cisco can only earn
> money
> sustainably if their customers are making money.  And not just
> making money,
> but making money by using Cisco gear.  You can only get money
> out if there
> is money coming in. Is that really happening?
> 
> Let me explain.  Let's look at the Internet.  Many studies have
> shown a boom
> in Internet usage.  A boom in traffic.  A boom in users. A boom
> in time
> spent on the Internet.  In all categories there is a boom,
> except for the
> one category that matters - a boom in profits.  How many
> dotcoms actually
> make money?  Few, very few.  How many service-providers
> actually make profit
> from providing Internet access?  Again, few, very few.   If you
> tally the
> aggregate of all the profit and losses derived from Internet
> operations, you
> will see that the Internet has been nothing but a financial
> debacle of the
> first order.  A business model where you, as a vendor, are
> making record
> profits while many of your customers are unprofitable is a
> business model
> that is unsustainable.
> 
> True, Cisco is not just all about the Internet.  So let's look
> at Cisco's
> bread-and-butter - the enterprise customer.  Enterprises will
> continue to
> invest in their network only to the degree that it is
> profitable to do so.
> Has Cisco, or any other networking vendor, been able to
> demonstrate a solid
> ROI from upgrading the network?    In many cases, no. 
> Companies don't just
> build out networks 'for fun', they do so because there is a
> clear business
> reason to do so.   What are these reasons?
> 
> Now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that there are no good
> reasons to do
> a network buildout.  Indeed there are often many good reasons. 
> But my point
> is that we need engineers who are not only technically strong,
> but can also
> articulate a strong business case as to why money should be
> spent.  In
> short, we engineers need to know more about the business and
> financial side
> of things.
> 
> *How many people really care about the network?
> 
> By that, I mean how many regular (non-technical) people really
> care about a
> network at all?  Are they going to be dazzled with mentions of
> BGP and VoIP
> and all that crap?  Hardly.  Regular people care about the
> services that a
> network can provide.  It is the services that people are
> willing to pay for,
> not the network itself.  But that begs the question - are there
> really all
> these jazzy services out there that regular people are willing
> to pay for?
> Before you answer, you may wish to consider the following
> snippet from the
> Hart-Winston study:
> 
> "The bottom line is that among people who are most likely to
> subscribe to
> high-speed Internet access, the obstacles are price and lack of
> appeal,"
> said Hart, CEO of Hart Research. "Forty-eight percent have no
> interest
> regardless of price and another 21 percent are willing to pay
> at most $20
> per month. If you cannot win over the people who are currently
> using the
> Internet, consumer acceptance of high-speed access will be slow
> and
> limited...Findings about consumer interest in subscribing to
> high-speed
> service also apply to those who use it at work, the poll found,
> indicating
> that even those exposed to the service find little reason to
> subscribe at
> home"
> http://www.comptel.org/press/nov29_2001_voices.html
> 
> Then of course there was that incident in Oregon where a whole
> town was
> offered free broadband for a year, and only half the households
> signed up
> (can't find the article unfortunately, but you may wish to talk
> to Steven
> Ridder if you want to see it).  The point is, at this time,
> very few regular
> people actually care about the Internet because there are no
> truly
> compelling services out there, and especially not much that
> people are
> willing to pay serious money for.
> 
> * Cisco isn't going anywhere.
> 
> All the nasty invective aside, the fact is that Cisco holds
> more of a
> premier position in the industry than perhaps at any other
> time.  They got
> billions of dollars in the bank, and very importantly, no
> debt.  The
> disaster of the service-provider market was something of a
> godsend to Cisco
> in the sense that it has crushed its competitors like Nortel
> and Lucent.
> Just a few years ago there was talk of how Cisco was going to
> have its lunch
> eaten by those Nor/cent because of their long-standing close
> relationships
> with service-providers.  You don't hear that kind of talk
> anymore.  The fact
> is, Cisco has basically been handed another few years for which
> it can
> develop a strong service-provider initiative (no, Stratacom
> didn't really
> work out, and the GSR is a point product, it's not an
> initiative).
> 
> *The best move may be not to play.
> 
> Cisco and networking in general most likely has its glory days
> behind it.
> Things will probably never be as good as they were.  Cisco will
> probably
> never reach a market cap of $550 billion for many years  and
> will probably
> never see a growth rate of 60% ever again.  This extends to us
> engineers.
> We will almost certainly never have it as good as 1999 ever
> again.  Network
> engineers will most likely have to combine their networking
> skills with
> other talents if they want to remain employable.  For example,
> they will
> probably need strong business skills.  Or strong app skills (to
> understand
> the services that actually generate the revenue that is needed
> for increased
> network spending).  Things like that.
> 
> 




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