I disagree. CCSP fits in the Cisco Professional Certification scheme much better than CSS1. Also for your additional SAFE exam you geta 3 year cert instead of a 2 year. Looks to me like CSS1 was a proving ground for Cisco before going ahead with a mainline cert like CCSP. I have one more test to complete to get my CSS1. I plan to get it and then go for the SAFE exam to get the CCSP cert. I think the CCSP cert will be much more accepted than the CSS1 has been. Cisco's new redisign of it's testing base is a welcome change. Technology is always changing and the Certification Exams should reflect this. Thank You, Leslie McIntosh Sr. Network Engineer Deloitte & Touche Outsourcing
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tue 11/26/2002 2:40 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: RE: CCSP [7:57713] Hi, I can't agree more. I won't bother taking another cisco exam that doesn't provide any clear value. CSS-1 has not been widely recognized, and yet it is slated to be retired. I won't expect much coming from CCSP and the three other security cert. I am beginning to have a negative bias on Cisco exams that shortlived or frequently changed as a mean to revenue-earning ...... Regards, Leonard Ong, CISSP, CSS-1, CCSE+, CCMSE CCNP, CCDP, MCSE, MCDBA, LCP Network Security Specialist, APAC NOKIA Email. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile. +65 9431 6184 Phone. +65 6723 1724 Fax. +65 6723 1596 -----Original Message----- From: ext Godswill HO [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 7:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCSP [7:57713] If you take one of the 3 specialized courses plus MCNS exam, you become a Specialist in that area eg 1. CSPFA+MCNS = Firewall Specialist 2. CSVPN+MCNS = VPN specialist 3. IDSPM+MCNS = IDS Specialsit For a Limited time more: CSPFA+CSVPN+IDSPM+MCNS = CSS1 Also CSPFA+CSVPN+IDSPM+MCNS+SAFE= CCSP >From now till 09/03 People like my humble self who already have the CSS1 designation would need take only the SAFE exam to become CCSP. I did not see any true meaning to all these. Cisco should know better. my 0.02 Regards Godswill CCNP,CCDP,CSS1 (CSPFA for Firewall, CSVPN for > VPN, and CSIDS for IDS) --- Creighton Bill-BCREIGH1 wrote: > Nevermind - sometime earlier they enabled the > links... > > -----Original Message----- > From: Creighton Bill-BCREIGH1 > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] > Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 3:07 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: CCSP [7:57713] > > > Good Info! > I tried following the link for those new Specialist > certs on Cisco's site, > but the link is broken - are Specialists defined now > by completing only the > individual exams? (CSPFA for Firewall, CSVPN for > VPN, and CSIDS for IDS) > > -----Original Message----- > From: ""Peter.Walker:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:""Peter.Walker:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 2:53 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: CCSP [7:57713] > > > Joshua > > The CCSP is basically just a realignment of the > current Cisco Security > Specialist 1 certification into the Cisco > Professional track. It does add > one more exam to the requirements but other than > that no real change. Cisco > has even 'generously' allowed current CSS1s to take > the remaining exam to > get the cert. :-) > > As for the new specialist level certs, they are just > dumbed down > ^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H more focussed variations of > the CSS1. > > I really dont think Cisco have thought this one > through as anyone who > attains CCSP (with the current versions of the > exams), will also > automatically get three specialist level certs. In > my opinion this totally > devalues the specialist level certs. They should be > something that takes > specific specialised skill and knowledge to attain, > not something you get > for free as part of the process of attaining an > intermediate level > professional qualification. > > Peter Walker > CISSP, CSS1, CITPSS, CCNP, CCIP, CCDP, etc > > (Putting flame proof clothing on) > > Joshua Green wrote: > > > > Anyone else hear about the new CCSP cert that > Cisco is offering?! > > It's about time! Although I wish some of the > other Professional level > > certs would count towards it in some way... I > also like the three new > > Specialist level certs! > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > Joshua Green; MCSE, CCNA > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > CityScape Communications > > 2040 Timberbrooke Drive > > Springfield, IL 62702 > > (217) 793.6238 x18 > > (217) 793.6275 fax > > (217) 306.6201 cell [EMAIL PROTECTED] __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site http://webhosting.yahoo.com &i=58094&t=57713 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and is protected by law. - If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this message, or the taking of any action based on it, is strictly prohibited. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=58096&t=57713 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]