Thanks for the info - I was looking at using the ErlangC model due to the
nature of computer networks. Currently, my modelling is based on assuming an
application takes 2 seconds to complete a task if it had 32kbps of bandwidth
reserved for it, I can use the Erlang model to calculate whether 95% of
transactions can be completed within say 2.3 seconds (with the 0.3 seconds
being queue delay) - but by changing the bandwidth I change my underlying
assumption of 2 seconds. Ie, if I allocate 64kbps, then the application may
only takes 1.2 seconds and my model changes accordingly.

The traditional Erlang model applies well on a packet-by-packet basis (just
like queues of people in the bank, etc), but I'm not sure of its
applicability to a series of packets on a whole which make up a transaction.

Regards

Richard


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From: charles dunkirk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Saturday, 30 November 2002 12:38 AM
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Subject: Re: Software for Statistical Profiling [7:58277]


Try here for erlang calculator http://www.erlang.com/
 There are 2 type B and C  . B assumes blocked calls don't call back and 
C assumes they stay in
queue.
                            Chuck Dunkirk

The Long and Winding Road wrote:

>Richard, the software used for your telephone booth problem is called 
>an Ehrlang calculator. it seems that you could use an Ehrlang 
>calculator to do this as well. There are a number of web sites that 
>have Ehrlang calcs. A google search should reveal a bunch of them.
>
>A long time ago, in statistics class, we used to do something called 
>"monte carlo simulations" to figure out stuff like this also. I don't 
>remember much about the mechanics.  Got a statistics professor on you 
>campus?
>
>Chuck
>
>--
>TANSTAAFL
>"there ain't no such thing as a free lunch"
>
>
>
>
>""Larkin, Richard""  wrote in message 
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>>I recall in Uni that we used te Poisson distribution and some 
>>mathematical formulae to say that if we have x people arrive per hour 
>>at a phone booth, and the average phone call is y minutes, we would 
>>need z phone booths to ensure that 95% of the time, people don't have 
>>to wait (or only have to
>>
>wait
>
>>xx minutes).
>>
>>Transposing this to application budgeting, I have an application at a
>>
>remote
>
>>site which has a max of 5 concurrent users and the worst transaction 
>>they
>>
>do
>
>>will hog the 64kbps line for 30 seconds (if it is the only 
>>transaction).
>>
>>My question is without revising my lecture notes, what software would 
>>help me determine what bandwidth to allocate this application so that 
>>95% (or
>>whatever) of the time the transaction can be completed in yy seconds?
>>
>>Is there any good software out there which would help me with this?
>>
>>Cheers
>>Rik




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