Hi Chuck,
When I changed the IOS to 12.1.5T10, and problem solved.
Don't know what is changed for nssa after 12.2, I tried encap ppp on serial
ports, and even cannot see any O*N2 entries.

Thank you
Wei

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "The Long and Winding Road" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 1:19 PM
Subject: Re: revisited: OSPF stub/stub no-summary O*IA routing table
[7:60352]


> well, you got me. I haven't a clue as to why you are getting the result you
> describe.
> 
> In my own setup, the routers in question are running 12.1.2d on the stub
> router, and 12.1.5T10 on the other two. I am pretty sure these are
> enterprise plus versions, but I'd have to do a bit more digging to verify
> that. I know my reason for loading the 12.2 image was that I was searching
> for NBAR support, which apparently is just not available on the 25xx
series.
> 
> Do you agree that I am showing the desired result in my testing? Everything
> I see matches what I would expect to see, based on the configurations.
> 
> --
> TANSTAAFL
> "there ain't no such thing as a free lunch"
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ""Wei Zhu""  wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > I tried serial back-to-back instead of frame relay, but got same result,
> the
> > show ip ospf nei resulted the same as yours.
> > Instead of assigning ip directly to s0 and s1, I put on loopback 1 and 2,
> > then on s0 and s1, do ip unumber loopback 1 and 2 (although for ospf,
it's
> > not supposed to put one end unnumbered but the other end not), and I got
> the
> > result!!! Tow O*N2 entries.
> > I also tried the following senario:
> >        R1(ASBR)
> >        | (Area 0)
> >        |
> >        R2(ABR)
> >       /  \ (Area 1)
> >      /    \
> >     R3    R4
> >      \    /
> >       \  /
> >        R5
> > With normal configuration, I only can see one O*N2 entry on R5, but with
> ip
> > unnumbered with serail ports on R2, I can see both O*N2 0.0.0.0/0 using
R3
> > and R4.
> >
> > I am really confused. With regular ospf area, stubby, totally stubby, it
> > works fine, just doesn't like the NSSA.
> > I checked RFC 2328, the differece between unnumbered and ip assigned
> > point-to point is the Link Data info in LSA, is that which causes the
> problem?
> >
> > Chuck, thank you very much for you help, BTW, can you give me your IOS
> > version? (Hopefully I am not tired yet of another try)
> >
> > Wei
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "The Long and Winding Road"
> > To:
> > Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 11:30 PM
> > Subject: Re: revisited: OSPF stub/stub no-summary O*IA routing table
> > [7:60278]
> >
> >
> > > ""Wei Zhu""  wrote in message
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > Hi Chuck,
> > > > I tried point-to-point instead of frame relay and still could not get
> > > > through.(Everything is fine except nssa)
> > > > In my understanding, the External type LSA (E1 or E2) will flood
> > > everywhere,
> > > > while for NSSA area, it change from type 5 to type 7.
> > >
> > > I'm not sure, but I believe that for routes INTO an NSSA, type 5's are
> > > blocked, not changed to type 7. The ABR will change type 7's to type
5's
> > OUT
> > > of the NSSA ( into the rest of OSPF ) yeah - looking at the RFC, that's
> > what
> > > it states - external type-5's are not imported into the NSSA
> > >
> > >
> > > When I tried "show ip
> > > > ospf database external" on R2, I could see the LSA with forward
> address
> > > > 0.0.0.0, but on R5, the forward address changed to 192.168.1.33(or
> > > > 192.168.1.17). How did this happen? I think that's the reason why I
> only
> > > can
> > > > see on O*N2 entry insteady of 2. I am using 2500 serial routers.
> > > >
> > >
> > > For this experiment, I used 2500 routers as well.
> > >
> > > when you do the show ip ospf neighbors, do you see neighbor
> relationships
> > > over both links?
> > >
> > > Router_8#o nei
> > >
> > > Neighbor ID     Pri   State           Dead Time   Address
> Interface
> > > 222.222.222.9     1   FULL/  -        00:00:36    192.168.1.34
> Serial1
> > > 222.222.222.9     1   FULL/  -        00:00:36    192.168.1.18
> Serial0
> > > Router_8#
> > >
> > > the relevant results from my show ip ospf database:
> > >
> > > Router 9 ( area border router )
> > >
> > > Router_9#o data
> > >
> > >             OSPF Router with ID (222.222.222.9) (Process ID 200)
> > >
> > >                 Router Link States (Area 0)
> > >
> > > Link ID         ADV Router      Age         Seq#       Checksum Link
> count
> > > 222.222.222.9   222.222.222.9   1595        0x80000011 0xAF01   1
> > > 222.222.222.10  222.222.222.10  1873        0x8000000E 0x941F   1
> > >
> > >                 Net Link States (Area 0)
> > >
> > > Link ID         ADV Router      Age         Seq#       Checksum
> > > 10.1.1.1        222.222.222.10  1873        0x8000000D 0xE14C
> > >
> > >                 Summary Net Link States (Area 0)
> > >
> > > Link ID         ADV Router      Age         Seq#       Checksum
> > > 192.168.1.16    222.222.222.9   595         0x80000010 0x1BC1
> > > 192.168.1.32    222.222.222.9   595         0x80000010 0x7A52
> > > 192.168.1.48    222.222.222.9   1595        0x8000000C 0xEBD3
> > > 192.168.1.64    222.222.222.9   1595        0x8000000C 0x4B64
> > >
> > >                 Router Link States (Area 1)
> > >
> > > Link ID         ADV Router      Age         Seq#       Checksum Link
> count
> > > 222.222.222.8   222.222.222.8   1468        0x80000013 0x6FB2   6
> > > 222.222.222.9   222.222.222.9   1598        0x8000001A 0x2E31   4
> > >
> > >                 Summary Net Link States (Area 1)
> > >
> > > Link ID         ADV Router      Age         Seq#       Checksum
> > > 10.1.0.0        222.222.222.9   1598        0x80000010 0xCBA1
> > >
> > >                 Type-7 AS External Link States (Area 1)
> > >
> > > Link ID         ADV Router      Age         Seq#       Checksum Tag
> > > 0.0.0.0         222.222.222.9   1598        0x8000000C 0xDB25   0
> > >
> > >                 Type-5 AS External Link States
> > >
> > > Link ID         ADV Router      Age         Seq#       Checksum Tag
> > > 172.16.10.0     222.222.222.10  627         0x8000000E 0xB86D   0
> > > 172.16.11.0     222.222.222.10  627         0x8000000E 0xAD77   0
> > > Router_9#
> > >
> > > AND from router 8 ( the router that is NSSA only )
> > >
> > > Router_8#o data
> > >
> > >             OSPF Router with ID (222.222.222.8) (Process ID 200)
> > >
> > >                 Router Link States (Area 1)
> > >
> > > Link ID         ADV Router      Age         Seq#       Checksum Link
> count
> > > 222.222.222.8   222.222.222.8   1666        0x80000013 0x6FB2   6
> > > 222.222.222.9   222.222.222.9   1795        0x8000001A 0x2E31   4
> > >
> > >                 Summary Net Link States (Area 1)
> > >
> > > Link ID         ADV Router      Age         Seq#       Checksum
> > > 10.1.0.0        222.222.222.9   1795        0x80000010 0xCBA1
> > >
> > >                 Type-7 AS External Link States (Area 1)
> > >
> > > Link ID         ADV Router      Age         Seq#       Checksum Tag
> > > 0.0.0.0         222.222.222.9   1795        0x8000000C 0xDB25   0
> > > Router_8#
> > >
> > > As I said, I can't duplicate the problem. I keep coming back to a frame
> > > relay issue 9 but for the life of my I can't see why. are the
> subinterfaces
> > > point-to-point? )  or artifact.
> > >
> > > have you blown away the config, reloaded, then started from scratch?
> hate
> > to
> > > suggest the microsoft answer, but I am at a loss.
> > >
> > > HTH
> > >
> > > Chuck
> > >
> > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Wei
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "The Long and Winding Road"
> > > > To:
> > > > Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 4:59 PM
> > > > Subject: revisited: OSPF stub/stub no-summary O*IA routing table
entry
> > > > [7:60242]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > hope you don't mind me bringing this back public. I saw no other
> > > responses
> > > > > and I was curious so I've done some further research based on your
> > > > > configuration. The major difference in my setup and yours is frame
> > > relay. I
> > > > > am using two point-to-point serial links. too complicated for me to
> > tear
> > > > > down my current setup to emulate your frame.
> > > > >
> > > > > methodology:
> > > > >
> > > > > 1) set everything up as best I can based on your configurations. At
> > this
> > > > > point, just plain old ordinary OSPF areas.
> > > > >
> > > > > C       222.222.222.8 is directly connected, Loopback1001
> > > > >      172.16.0.0/16 is variably subnetted, 3 subnets, 2 masks
> > > > > O E2    172.16.10.0/24 [110/20] via 192.168.1.18, 00:04:47, Serial0
> > > > >                        [110/20] via 192.168.1.34, 00:04:47, Serial1
> > > > > O E2    172.16.11.0/24 [110/20] via 192.168.1.18, 00:04:47, Serial0
> > > > >                        [110/20] via 192.168.1.34, 00:04:47, Serial1
> > > > >      10.0.0.0/16 is subnetted, 1 subnets
> > > > > O IA    10.1.0.0 [110/74] via 192.168.1.34, 00:04:48, Serial1
> > > > >                  [110/74] via 192.168.1.18, 00:04:48, Serial0
> > > > >      192.168.1.0/28 is subnetted, 4 subnets
> > > > > C       192.168.1.64 is directly connected, Loopback2
> > > > > C       192.168.1.32 is directly connected, Serial1
> > > > > C       192.168.1.48 is directly connected, Loopback1
> > > > > C       192.168.1.16 is directly connected, Serial0
> > > > > Router_8#
> > > > >
> > > > > as you can see, all routes are shown as reachable via both of the
> > serial
> > > > > ports.
> > > > >
> > > > > 2) turn area 1 into a stub area:
> > > > >
> > > > >      10.0.0.0/16 is subnetted, 1 subnets
> > > > > O IA    10.1.0.0 [110/74] via 192.168.1.34, 00:01:50, Serial1
> > > > >                  [110/74] via 192.168.1.18, 00:01:50, Serial0
> > > > >      192.168.1.0/28 is subnetted, 4 subnets
> > > > > C       192.168.1.64 is directly connected, Loopback2
> > > > > C       192.168.1.32 is directly connected, Serial1
> > > > > C       192.168.1.48 is directly connected, Loopback1
> > > > > C       192.168.1.16 is directly connected, Serial0
> > > > > O*IA 0.0.0.0/0 [110/65] via 192.168.1.34, 00:01:51, Serial1
> > > > >                [110/65] via 192.168.1.18, 00:01:51, Serial0
> > > > > Router_8#
> > > > >
> > > > > exactly as expected. the two external routes in the 172 range are
> not
> > > > passed
> > > > > into the stub area.
> > > > >
> > > > > 3) turn area 1 into a totally subby area ( love that term! I can
> still
> > > hear
> > > > > my ACRC instructor intoning it just like a Valley Girl )
> > > > >
> > > > > show ip ospf
> > > > >
> > > > > Area 1
> > > > >         Number of interfaces in this area is 2
> > > > >         It is a stub area, no summary LSA in this area
> > > > >           generates stub default route with cost 1
> > > > >
> > > > >      192.168.1.0/28 is subnetted, 4 subnets
> > > > > C       192.168.1.64 is directly connected, Loopback2
> > > > > C       192.168.1.32 is directly connected, Serial1
> > > > > C       192.168.1.48 is directly connected, Loopback1
> > > > > C       192.168.1.16 is directly connected, Serial0
> > > > > O*IA 0.0.0.0/0 [110/65] via 192.168.1.34, 00:01:01, Serial1
> > > > >                [110/65] via 192.168.1.18, 00:01:01, Serial0
> > > > > Router_8#
> > > > >
> > > > > again - everything is as expected
> > > > >
> > > > > 4) change from totally stubby to NSSA ( kinda sorta stubby :-> )
> > > > >
> > > > > router ospf 200
> > > > >  log-adjacency-changes
> > > > >  area 1 nssa
> > > > >  network 10.0.0.0 0.255.255.255 area 0
> > > > >  network 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.255 area 1
> > > > > !
> > > > >
> > > > >      10.0.0.0/16 is subnetted, 1 subnets
> > > > > O IA    10.1.0.0 [110/74] via 192.168.1.34, 00:00:25, Serial1
> > > > >                  [110/74] via 192.168.1.18, 00:00:25, Serial0
> > > > >      192.168.1.0/28 is subnetted, 4 subnets
> > > > > C       192.168.1.64 is directly connected, Loopback2
> > > > > C       192.168.1.32 is directly connected, Serial1
> > > > > C       192.168.1.48 is directly connected, Loopback1
> > > > > C       192.168.1.16 is directly connected, Serial0
> > > > > Router_8#
> > > > >
> > > > > again - completely as expected. the inter-area route in the 10.
> network
> > > is
> > > > > seen, but the two external routes in the 172 network are not seen.
> > > > >
> > > > > 5) tweak the NSSA
> > > > >
> > > > > router ospf 200
> > > > >  log-adjacency-changes
> > > > >  area 1 nssa default-information-originate
> > > > >  network 10.0.0.0 0.255.255.255 area 0
> > > > >  network 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.255 area 1
> > > > > !
> > > > >
> > > > >      10.0.0.0/16 is subnetted, 1 subnets
> > > > > O IA    10.1.0.0 [110/74] via 192.168.1.34, 00:00:01, Serial1
> > > > >                  [110/74] via 192.168.1.18, 00:00:01, Serial0
> > > > >      192.168.1.0/28 is subnetted, 4 subnets
> > > > > C       192.168.1.64 is directly connected, Loopback2
> > > > > C       192.168.1.32 is directly connected, Serial1
> > > > > C       192.168.1.48 is directly connected, Loopback1
> > > > > C       192.168.1.16 is directly connected, Serial0
> > > > > O*N2 0.0.0.0/0 [110/1] via 192.168.1.34, 00:00:02, Serial1
> > > > >                [110/1] via 192.168.1.18, 00:00:02, Serial0
> > > > > Router_8#
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > as you can see, step by step, I get the expected result every time.
> > > > >
> > > > > variables - things that differ in my setup -
> > > > >
> > > > > 1) point-to-point serial links instead of frame relay
> > > > >
> > > > > 2) secondary address in the ethernet port of the area 1 router - R8
> in
> > > my
> > > > > case, R3 in your case. I use loopbacks instead.
> > > > >
> > > > > So - I am unable to duplicate your problem in my setup. you don't
> > > indicate
> > > > > the configurations of the interfaces, but I am now thinking
> something
> > in
> > > > > your frame relay setup. I did not see anything resembling this
> problem
> > > in
> > > > > the TAC bug database. Not that I read all of them :->
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't have a solution, but I certainly admire the problem.
> > > > >
> > > > > Chuck
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Wei Zhu"
> > > > > To: "The Long and Winding Road"
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, 02 January, 2003 7:48 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: OSPF stub/stub no-summary O*IA routing table entry
> > > [7:60088]
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Thank you Chuck. Finally it worked with totally stubby, but this
> time
> > > the
> > > > > nssa didn't work, I tried several times, upgraded IOS to 12.2.13.
> Here
> > I
> > > > > gave some brief configuration, the interface configuration are all
> > > > > frame-relay subinterface point-to point .
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The router configuration on R1:
> > > > > > router ospf 200
> > > > > >  log-adjacency-changes
> > > > > >  redistribute connected subnets route-map passext
> > > > > >  network 10.0.0.0 0.255.255.255 area 0
> > > > > > !
> > > > > > ip classless
> > > > > > no ip http server
> > > > > > !
> > > > > > access-list 1 permit 172.16.10.0
> > > > > > access-list 1 permit 172.16.11.0
> > > > > > route-map passext permit 10
> > > > > >  match ip address 1
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The router configuration on R2:
> > > > > > router ospf 200
> > > > > >  log-adjacency-changes
> > > > > >  area 1 nssa default-information-originate
> > > > > >  network 10.0.0.0 0.255.255.255 area 0
> > > > > >  network 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.255 area 1
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The router configuration on R3:
> > > > > > router ospf 200
> > > > > >  log-adjacency-changes
> > > > > >  area 1 nssa
> > > > > >  network 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.255 area 1
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The show ip route on R3:
> > > > > > Gateway of last resort is 192.168.1.33 to network 0.0.0.0
> > > > > >
> > > > > >      10.0.0.0/24 is subnetted, 2 subnets
> > > > > > O IA    10.2.2.0 [110/4686] via 192.168.1.33, 00:00:01,
> Serial0.312
> > > > > >                  [110/4686] via 192.168.1.17, 00:00:01,
> Serial0.302
> > > > > > O IA    10.1.1.0 [110/3124] via 192.168.1.33, 00:00:01,
> Serial0.312
> > > > > >                  [110/3124] via 192.168.1.17, 00:00:01,
> Serial0.302
> > > > > >      192.168.1.0/28 is subnetted, 4 subnets
> > > > > > C       192.168.1.64 is directly connected, Ethernet0
> > > > > > C       192.168.1.32 is directly connected, Serial0.312
> > > > > > O       192.168.1.48 [110/1572] via 192.168.1.66, 00:00:01,
> Ethernet0
> > > > > > C       192.168.1.16 is directly connected, Serial0.302
> > > > > > O*N2 0.0.0.0/0 [110/1] via 192.168.1.33, 00:00:01, Serial0.312
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > Wei
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "The Long and Winding Road"
> > > > > > To:
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 10:12 PM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: OSPF stub/stub no-summary O*IA routing table entry
> > > [7:60088]
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > ""Wei Zhu""  wrote in message
> > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > > > > > The Router connections are as following, R1 has 1 frame relay
> > > circuit
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > R2,
> > > > > > > > R2 has 2 frame relay circuits to R3, R2 is the ABR, R1 in
Area
> 0,
> > > and
> > > > > R3
> > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > area 1.
> > > > > > > >        R1
> > > > > > > >        /
> > > > > > > >       /
> > > > > > > >      R2
> > > > > > > >     / /
> > > > > > > >    / /
> > > > > > > >    R3
> > > > > > > > On R1, there is a redistribute entry. The two ip address on
R2
> to
> > > R3
> > > > > side
> > > > > > > > are 192.168.1.33/28, 192.168.1.17/28. The IOS is 12.2(1d).
> > > > > > > > When enable area 1 as a stub area, the O* IA entry on R3:
> > > > > > > > O*IA 0.0.0.0/0 [110/1563] via 192.168.1.33
> > > > > > > >      0.0.0.0/0 [110/1563] via 192.168.1.17
> > > > > > > > When enable area 1 as a totally stub area, the O* IA entry on
> R3:
> > > > > > > > O*IA 0.0.0.0/0 [110/1563] via 192.168.1.33 (the 192.168.1.17
> > entry
> > > > > > > > disappeared)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > It seems that in totally stub area(stub no-summary), the
> default
> > > > > traffic
> > > > > > > > cannot be load balanced between the two circuits.
> > > > > > > > Can anyone explain this?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > sorry - can't duplicate your results. in my test bed,
everything
> > > > > operated
> > > > > > > precisely as expected. 12.1.5T10 and 12.2.1D on the roputers in
> > > > > question.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > might want to check your configs again. depending on what you
> have
> > > been
> > > > > > > doing, a phenomenon known as artifact can distort results.
> Reload
> > > > helps.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > otherwise, if you can document, pass along your configs, and I
> can
> > > try
> > > > > doing
> > > > > > > things exactly the way you do them.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > HTH
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Chuck
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > Wei
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