we just got our 3745's for our data center lab...I'll let
you know soon
how they work under stress and traffic conditions....

Larry Letterman
Network Engineer
Cisco Systems


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From: "The Long and Winding Road"

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Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 7:57 PM
Subject: Off Topic - layers 8, 9, and 10 [7:62616]


> When we last saw our hero ( yours truly ) he was up to his
ears in a major
> AVVID deal. Lorda mercy, what a motherf*****  The customer
RFP was crap, the
> turnaround time was cruel and unusual, and then when the
bidders all came
> back with numbers in the high 8 million range, the
customer threw us all
> out, and told us to come back when we could sell a system
that would cost
> the customer no more than X dollars per year on a five
year lease.
>
> On top of that, you have Cisco sticking their nose in
every chance they get
> bitching about my choices of routers. "You can do it
cheaper. we don't want
> to lose the business because you're overspecifying
routers" For an AVVID?
> with unknown call volume? and unknown data traffic? Give
me a break. It
> ain't Cisco who's ass is gonna be kicked if the voice
quality sucks.
>
> Layer 8 - politics, particularly of the customer
> layer 9 - politics - the sales account rep
> layer 10 - Cisco
>
> gotta say, though, this is gonna be one sweet project. for
once I believe we
> have a good technical solution combined with ample project
hours for
> assessments and implementation.
>
> but this whole process was still a motherF*****
>
> BTW, anyone have any comments on the new 1760V and 2651V
packages? I
> specified them in a couple of smaller sites. I used my
cutoff point as
> roughly 30 phones / 100 data ports, due to the great
unknowns. DSP
> resources, transcoding resources, and CPU hits when doing
conference
> calling, transcoding, and QoS were major concerns.
>
> 37XX routers sure seem like nice boxes. anyone got any
comments? Their
> performance anywhere near what the spec sheet says?
>
> --
> TANSTAAFL
> "there ain't no such thing as a free lunch"
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