Then explain to me what the ip address is doing that is
assigned to my
fast ethernet and gig interfaces on my 3550 and that also
shows up in the routing
table as a router interface. I have no vlans configured
other than the default...

Larry Letterman
Network Engineer
Cisco Systems


----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephen Hoover" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 4:55 PM
Subject: Re: Understanding VLANs - how they remove the
physical [7:63194]


> Ok, let me see if I can simply this:
>
> A post that Jens Neelsen made says "a layer3 switch
(e.g.3550-EMI) does not
> have layer3 interfaces. All interfaces (Fastethernet and
GigabitEthernet)
> are layer2
> interfaces. They can not have IP addresses." Further he
adds "The VLANs are
> the (virtual) interfaces to the routing engine (=layer3
switch). Layer2
> interfaces are grouped into different VLANs and the Layer3
switch (=Router)
> enables the communications between these VLANs. "
>
> Ok then the question is - if you have a LAN with ALL
switches and NO
> routers - how do you define a gateway on the client?
>
> Example:
>
> 2 L2 switches. All hosts on switch 1 are in IP subnet
192.168.1.0/24 and all
> hosts on switch 2 are in IP subnet 192.168.2.0/24. Both L2
switches are
> connected to a single L3 switch with a router engine in
it.
>
> Where do you define the gateways at? In order for hosts on
L2 switch 1 to
> communicate with hosts L2 switch 2, the client has to have
a gateway to
> forward to correct??
>
> Stephen
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Priscilla Oppenheimer"
> To:
> Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 4:45 PM
> Subject: RE: Understanding VLANs - how they remove the
physical [7:63173]
>
>
> > Stephen Hoover wrote:
> > >
> > > back to switch A to get his routing to
> > > the servers?
> > > Why would you EVER want a network configured this
way?? Or even
> > > worse, what
> > > if your respective gateway was 3 or 4 L3 switches
away?
> >
> > Your gateway can't be any L3 switches (routers) away. It
has to be on your
> > LAN. It has to be in your subnet. It has to be in your
broadcast domain.
> It
> > has to be in your VLAN. For one thing, a host ARPs for
its default
> gateway.
> > ARP uses broadcast.
> >
> > I just noticed your comment and wanted to add my
comment. Without being
> able
> > to decode your drawing, it's hard to tell exactly how to
answer, but I'm
> > just trying to get you to think about what really
happens to packets on a
> > campus network. The network design you're considering
isn't just
> > impractical. It won't work, if I understand it
correctly.
> >
> > Priscilla
> >
> >
> >
> > > That
> > > just doesn't
> > > seem practical to me.
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > > Stephen Hoover
> > > Dallas, Texas
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