we are making a big fuzz about being more 'serious' about things and
when people expect great things you have a big responsibility."
I totally agree with this sentiment and understand Giorgio's point. We are offering something that distinguishes us from WP, and in order to do this effectively, we need to have at least a thorough understanding of not just where we are, but where we're going.
(My one cent),
Michael
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From: Giorgio F. Gilestro <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
Date: Oct 26, 2006 4:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Citizendium-l] a response to Giorgio's 5 cents...
To: "Hammel, Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
Cc: [email protected]
Hi Michael,
> Believable, yes but serious, come on. A sense of humor is what keeps us
> going. Laugh and the world laughs with you.
I didn't mean 'serious' as opposite of funny. Maybe I should have said
'rigorous' or rather 'based on defined guidelines'.
Also, I apologize for typos and mistakes, I am not a native English
speaker as you could guess from my name.
> Who's to say what is offensive or useful.
It's not about being offensive or useful but merely about asking: can we
guarantee a good product? Why would you think that CZ would be more
qualified on writing a biography about Silvester Stallone than WP?
Sure you can say "why not?" but I say we better be careful here because
we are making a big fuzz about being more 'serious' about things and
when people expect great things you have a big responsibility.
Anyway, I do understand your point, I am very well aware that the
advantage of having a richer database is consistent and I also think
that it is probably the right way to do but then we should probably be
extremely careful in separate materials according to the expertise of
the editors (whatever the discipline).
Just I am worried that most of it will not really take advantage from
the CZ system and we will end up with a WP clone.
> 3. Vandalism and real names
>> ...We all know that people tend not to use their own data on the net...
>
> Really? I always use my real name and am proud of it. I find that most
> serious contributors do so when asked to.
That's one point! non-serious contributors don't do that. So if there is
no control, they'll keep using fake names and we won't get rid of them.
>> 5. Keep a schedule and monitor yourself...
>> ...biggest mistake of WP was to be absolutely ignorant of itself. Who
> really writes wikipedia? How? What is the credibility of scientific
> articles vs. political articles, really? ...
>
> Sounds like a good argument to require real names and credentials, huh?
I am thinking more to retroactive studies, like comparing contents after
they have actually been written. It would be a *huge* mistake to assume
that contents are going to be excellent only because the person who
writes has a CV.
> Giorgio, please don't take any of my comments personally. I respect
> your opinions, mine just may be a little different and I toss them up
> here for discussion.
No need for disclaimers Michael, I am here to discuss!
It was a pleasure.
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