On 11/1/06, Stefan Sels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> I have some articles I setup on wikipedia that contain images. I stored
> these images on wikimedia commons.
>
> As their might be a citizendium within another language it might be
> usefull to store images within a system like wikimedia commons.
>
> Are there any plans or concept to store and categorize images (not just
> uploading them to mediawiki) ?

Hi guys,

while WP and Citizendium are philosophically very different, I
personally see no reason not to cooperate on multimedia content such
as images. A while ago I drafted the specs for a MediaWiki feature
that would allow any MediaWiki installation to use files from
Wikimedia Commons:

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/InstantCommons

This feature is now being implemented by a software development
company in Ghana and we expect to have the first prototype ready to
show within the next 14 days. Enabled on Citizendium (if it uses
MediaWiki), it would make it possible to use any Commons image like a
local image.

Mind you, Wikimedia Commons has a very rigid policy to only allow
freely licensed content -- we do not permit licenses such as CC-BY-NC
(noncommercial use only), for instance. If Citizendium wants to permit
such licenses, it might make sense to set up a separate "commons" for
it. This can be done relatively easily - it's a flip in the MediaWiki
configuration called $wgUseSharedUploads and some associated settings.

> Are there any plans or concept to store and categorize images (not just
> uploading them to mediawiki) ?

Taking my Wikimedia hat off for a moment, I work on a project called
WiktionaryZ (not yet an official WM project) that uses a wiki-like
approach to build a structured ontology. Within this ontology, there
are language-independent concept-identifiers we call
"DefinedMeanings". To give you an example:

http://wiktionaryz.org/DefinedMeaning:burn_%286039%29

This URL refers to a particular concept, "To be consumed by fire." The
expression "burn" has two other DefinedMeanings:
-  "An injury to the skin caused by fire, excessive heat or certain chemicals."
- "Physical sensation in the muscles following strenuous exercise,
caused by build-up of lactic acid."

If you had an image of a sunburn, you could tag it with the second
DefinedMeaning ID. It would then become possible to search for this
image using any synonym or translation pointing to the same concept.
In essence (though of course there are complications) this methodology
makes multilingual, semantic tagging possible.

We are exploring the possibilities to tag media on Wikimedia Commons
in this fashion and hope to have a concrete project proposal ready by
the end of the year. Again, it would be possible for Citizendium to
participate in this, either by using Commons via InstantCommons, or by
using the same technology.
-- 
Peace & Love,
Erik

Member, Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees

DISCLAIMER: Unless otherwise stated, all views or opinions expressed
in this message are solely my own and do not represent an official
position of the Wikimedia Foundation or its Board of Trustees.
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