Sort of. At least you know the music will most likely be Irish. Not quite the case with the English guitar. Rob
_____ From: Brad McEwen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 April 2006 16:05 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; cittern@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: Re: [CITTERN] Re: Diatonic Cittern Music Hi: yes, I guess the term English Guittar is quite meaningless. A term of convenience, rather like the "Irish" bouzouki. Brad Rob MacKillop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: For sure it was referred to outside of Britain as the English Guitar, largely to distinguish it from the Spanish guitar, so Doc is right. And the name did catch on in Britain, although there are some early 19th-century publications for 'English Guitar' which are in the tuning od the Spanish Guitar. It is all very confusing. The term English Guitar is as good and meaningless as any other, I guess. We all know what it refers to, but it was not at all common. Italian Pocket Guitar? Italians must have had deep and wide pockets! Scots, of course, all wore kilts and hid their (English!) guittars in their sporans. I know I do. Rob -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 April 2006 14:12 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; cittern@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: RE: [CITTERN] Re: Diatonic Cittern Music I think Cesare Mussolini published a work for English Guittar or Italian Pocket Guitar. He's Italian, but it was published in London @1788 or something (I'm not at home now...). The term English guitar (one or two t's) was used in the 18th-century - have a look at my article on the Music in Time site. Doc Original Message: ----------------- From: Brad McEwen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 04:56:26 -0700 (PDT) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], cittern@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [CITTERN] Re: Diatonic Cittern Music Rob: Ah, ok, then. Brad Rob MacKillop wrote: Hi Brad, I did not say that ''there were not "British" publications of guittar music in the 18th C.'' - what I did say was that there were no British publications for an instruments called 'the English Guitar'. Please re-read what I said. Rob -----Original Message----- From: Brad McEwen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 April 2006 01:11 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; cittern@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [CITTERN] Re: Diatonic Cittern Music Rob You state in the site that there were not "British" publications of guittar music in the 18th C. However, what do you mean by British? Oswald and Brmener were British, were they not? Do you not mean that there were no ENGLISH publciations (to be precise)? Brad To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html --------------------------------- New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . _____ How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone <http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mail_us/taglines/postman8/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/ev t=39663/*http://voice.yahoo.com> call rates. --