As I said I will wait until I see what is written on this event in the next publication before forming my final opinion. I just can't resist a few comments on some things posted so far though.
In an effort to not flirt with the 15 post limit and save some delete key blisters I have put several comments on this thread into one post. Hopefully I will get the authors right. Jo Ann Posted: <<I'm speaking of crime and punishment...I'll mention the "dirty dozen" again...I'm not fond of all of them, I outright dislike one or two of them, have no respect for a few of them and love two of them. None of them deserved the punishment they received...are we a kinder and gentler club or do we select a few for punishment and let the rest go....food for thought.>> My top concerns are as follows. A) A full explanation (forthcoming I have been told) B) Corrective literature to the same audiance to assure everyone understands what the DDAL is all about. ( I think it was mentioned this has or will happen) C) Prevent something like this from happening again if possible. (#1 Concern) These outcomes are far more important to me then stringing up the culprit an action from which I fail to see a gain for the breed especially if the person in question has served the club well for many years. Crucifixtion for one act? All else forgotton? Is that fair? Don't get me wrong if anyone can be a vindictive head hunter its me <G> I just am not sure what there is to gain in this instance from it. I do, however, understand the cry for equal justice since the expulsion of 12 was for what many consider a far less offensive action. And did they not and do they not in many cases have known records of doing many positive things for the breed before and since? Consistency is the question at hand I think. Maybe if we want to start setting a positive precedent this would be a fine opportunity to retract the suspensions of "the dirty dozen" as part of an overall review and overhaul of disciplinary actions of the club. By doing so it would then be consistent to:: Get a full explanation of the event Assure controls are in place to prevent an event like this from occuring again Yet it will Remove the pressure of now applying fines and expulsion for this event (an action I am not sure will reap anything positive for the breed) It will provide an opportunity to restore added faith in those running the club. Something good can yet come from the event. In fact something good already has if procedures are changed to help assure something like this does not happen again (if possible). I think the backlash from the general club membership and reputation (deserved or not) this event will forever attach to the name of the responsible party will serve as enough punishment. Lets close the loophole and prevent future damage. Cathy wrote: <<So then does that mean this is worse than the woman who put her puppy in the freezer. >> and Patricia Powers wrote: <<Unless you saw this happen, why bring it up here? And if you did witness such a horrible act, then you need to file a ethics complaint. Remember to ask yourself, is it fair, is it truthful and will it benefit others? If not, then it is best to remain silent.>> >From what I heard this happened and enough people know about it to, at least in my mind assure it most likely did. In fact the accused resigned the club .... for what other reason at that particular time I wonder? Too coincidental. Why bring it up here? Because it was a horrific act if it occurred as described and as I said before horrific acts like that NEED to be publicized. Remember a newbie not knowing better may one day take guidance from the executor of that horrific act. Thats a scary thought to me! Shout it from the hills I say (If you know it to be true) Why else bring it up here? I think Cathy was trying to raise the question of balanced justice just as Jo Ann was by bringing up the "dirty dozen". Is justice balanced in the club? Has it been? More importantly CAN IT BE? Maybe. These types of events can serve to help improve the club by improving the way it is run. And what is the point of filing an ethics complaint if the party has resigned from the club? The barn doors are open... the horse is long gone.... maybe not ethical but no dummy. And will it benefit others ..... I think sharing truths good and bad can do nothing but benefit others. Alida wrote: <<I hope that what happened will not end in simply publishing an explanation, apology or whatever in the next issue of the Bulletin, but will produce something positive for the future: namely, a revision of current policies, leading to improved editorial control and accountability.>> I agree and would like to think this will be a positive outcome of the event. Joan wrote: <<This was not an 'oops' sorry, typo, mis-statement .... not by a long shot!>> Sure doesn't seem so to me either .... but I'll wait until we hear the full story before making up my mind for sure. 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