On Jun 6, 2005, at 1:23 PM, Matt Fretwell wrote:
Timo Schoeler wrote:
What can certainly be observed on this mailing list is a tendency to
attack and reproach the developers.
IMHO this is misunderstood then. most of the cases some people ask why
this or that is managed in this or that way and some people have (and
tell) an idea of how to 'improve' (mind the colons) things.
this has nothing in common with criticism of any developer.
Actually, these are not suggestions regarding how one might 'improve'
things. These are initial posts which are carried out with a complete
lack
of forethought, and then, when an OP becomes piqued once they are
berated
for their aforementioned lack of forethought, become ignorant, for
lack of
a better word.
No, they got angry and were shocked at the response the initially got.
You said it yourself that they were berated for lack of forethought.
There is NO REASON to berate someone for a first offense that didn't
cause harm or foul to anyone on this list. He wasn't corrected, he
wasn't asked why he did what he did, he was insulted. Save the insults
and beratement for someone who repeatedly breaks a rule after being
corrected. Don't reply immediately with insults and beratement then
act surprised when they respond defensively! It's a show of respect
for someone as a person to give them some opportunity to correct their
mistake before writing them off as an asshat. I don't know the guy's
history on the list, but I didn't see why or how his initial postings
to this thread warranted such a response.
Whilst ones does admit that some devel's may lack certain
'people skills', or as the troll one said, are just misanthropic :), (I
really love that one. Practically had it emblazoned on a badge),
stupidity
is no excuse on the part of the OP.
It does not excuse insulting end users who weren't TRYING to be a pest
or make a problem. Maybe he was...but I personally didn't see it in
his post.
I think the definition of troll in this thread is getting greatly
watered down.
One does not need to be offhand, unless circumstances really do
dictate
such. Propogating a link to a public page where viral or trojan
software
may be freely downloaded does possibly constitute one of those
occasions.
Whilst the OP is already receiving these, the people who are not yet
inundated may well be pretty damn soon.
They looked to be IRC bots if I recall correctly. Hardly so new that
they are a secret. www.honeynet.org/papers/bots
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