Cant those be adopted / managed by Sanesecurity?

For all you know, those are already in Sanesecurity.

Regards
Brent Clark

On 2019/04/09 12:25, Mark Allan via clamav-users wrote:
The scan times are definitely better than they were - in fact, they're back to how they were before last week's inclusion of the Phishtank signatures. They're still almost double what they used to be though, and as far as I can see, there are still almost 4000 Phishtank signatures in the DB:
$ sigtool --find Phishtank | wc -l
     3968

Can I request that those ones also be removed please?

Best regards
Mark

On Sun, 7 Apr 2019 at 14:43, Micah Snyder (micasnyd) <micas...@cisco.com <mailto:micas...@cisco.com>> wrote:

    Tim,____

    __ __

    There are a couple of ways for users to drop specific categories of
    signatures at this time.  Sadly, they wouldn’t have helped this last
    week.  These include bytecode signatures, PUA (potentially unwanted
    applications) signatures, Email.Phishing and HTML.Phishing
    signatures, and the Safebrowsing database. ____

    __ __

    If we had named the Phishtank.Phishing sigs to
    HTML.Phishing.Phishtank or Email.Phishing.Phishtank then they could
    have been disabled with the clamscan option `--phishing-sigs=no`
    (clamd.conf: `PhishingSignatures no`).____

    __ __

    Maybe a better option would be for us to create a new optional
    database for phishing signatures. However, the names for the
    databases are hardcoded into freshclam, so it is non-trivial to add
    a new database and would require a few changes to ClamAV’s code. We
    have talked about making the databases easier to add/remove in the
    future so users can have more categories to enable/disable. In this
    light, it ties in well with existing plans.____

    __ __

    Of note the Phishtank sigs from Friday’s daily were removed
    yesterday and scan times should be back to normal. ____

    __ __

    Regards,____

    Micah____

    __ __

    *From: *Tim Hawkins <tim.hawk...@redflaggroup.com
    <mailto:tim.hawk...@redflaggroup.com>>
    *Date: *Friday, April 5, 2019 at 6:06 PM
    *To: *ClamAV users ML <clamav-users@lists.clamav.net
    <mailto:clamav-users@lists.clamav.net>>, Mark Allan
    <markjal...@gmail.com <mailto:markjal...@gmail.com>>
    *Cc: *"Micah Snyder (micasnyd)" <micas...@cisco.com
    <mailto:micas...@cisco.com>>
    *Subject: *Re: [External] Re: [clamav-users] Scan very slow____

    __ __

    Hi Micah____


    Does clamav partition the database so that signatures that are
    mainly associated with email scanning can be dropped out for folks
    only needing filesystems scans,  none of our systems use email, and
    we dont make use of the mailer extension.

    Having to load all the email focused signatures could as you have
    observed impact performance. ____

    Sent from Nine <http://www.9folders.com/>____

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------

    *From:* "Micah Snyder (micasnyd) via clamav-users"
    <clamav-users@lists.clamav.net <mailto:clamav-users@lists.clamav.net>>
    *Sent:* Saturday, April 6, 2019 03:18
    *To:* ClamAV users ML; Mark Allan
    *Cc:* Micah Snyder (micasnyd)
    *Subject:* [External] Re: [clamav-users] Scan very slow____

    __ __

    Regarding slow scan times today (and slow scan times in general), it
    appears that the signatures we generate based on PhishTank’s feed
    for phishing URLs are resulting in very slow load and scan times.____

    ____

    Today’s daily update saw 7448 new Phishtank signatures (much higher
    than usual) coinciding with the immediate performance drop for load
    time and scan time.  One user reported that the load time today on
    some of his slower machines was slow enough to exceed the timeout
    for service startup
    (https://bugzilla.clamav.net/show_bug.cgi?id=12317).____

    ____

    In limited testing on my own machine I saw the following change
    after dropping the Phishtank.Phishing signatures from daily.cvd’s
    daily.ldb file:____

      * Database load time on my laptop went from 75.43203997612 seconds
        down to 14.859203100204468 seconds ____
      * Scan time (for an arbitrary pdf) went from 1.798 sec to 0.644
        sec.____

    ____

    After some discussion between the teams that work on ClamAV and
    ClamAV signature content and deployment, we’ve agreed to drop
    PhishTank signatures from the database until we can determine a way
    to craft Phishtank signatures without incurring such a significant
    performance hit. ____

    ____

    The daily update tomorrow will have the change.____

    ____

    -Micah____

    ____


    Micah Snyder
    ClamAV Development
    Talos
    Cisco Systems, Inc.____

    ____

    ____

    ____

    *From: *clamav-users <clamav-users-boun...@lists.clamav.net
    <mailto:clamav-users-boun...@lists.clamav.net>> on behalf of "Micah
    Snyder (micasnyd) via clamav-users" <clamav-users@lists.clamav.net
    <mailto:clamav-users@lists.clamav.net>>
    *Reply-To: *ClamAV users ML <clamav-users@lists.clamav.net
    <mailto:clamav-users@lists.clamav.net>>
    *Date: *Friday, April 5, 2019 at 1:08 PM
    *To: *Mark Allan <markjal...@gmail.com
    <mailto:markjal...@gmail.com>>, ClamAV users ML
    <clamav-users@lists.clamav.net <mailto:clamav-users@lists.clamav.net>>
    *Cc: *"Micah Snyder (micasnyd)" <micas...@cisco.com
    <mailto:micas...@cisco.com>>
    *Subject: *Re: [clamav-users] Scan very slow____

    ____

    Hi Mark,____

    ____

    Sorry about the delay in responding.  I hadn’t looked at my
    clamav-users filter this morning.  Just investigating now.  Will
    respond when I know more. ____

    ____

    -Micah____

    ____

    *From: *Mark Allan <markjal...@gmail.com <mailto:markjal...@gmail.com>>
    *Date: *Friday, April 5, 2019 at 9:12 AM
    *To: *ClamAV users ML <clamav-users@lists.clamav.net
    <mailto:clamav-users@lists.clamav.net>>, "Micah Snyder (micasnyd)"
    <micas...@cisco.com <mailto:micas...@cisco.com>>
    *Subject: *Re: [clamav-users] Scan very slow____

    ____

    Also CC'ing Micah directly as the mailing list would appear to be
    offline (at least lists.clamav.net <http://lists.clamav.net> isn't
    responding to http requests anyway) ____

    ____

    It looks like scan times have gone through the roof. As Oya said,
    they're still considerably higher than they were a couple of months
    ago, but today's scan time is insane.____

    ____

    Yesterday's scan using____

    0.101.2:58:25409:1554370140:1:63:48554:328____

    took 7m 3s____

    ____

    On the same hardware, scanning the same read-only disk image, with
    today's scan using____

    0.101.2:58:25410:1554452941:1:63:48557:328____

    the scan time has jumped to 26m 15s____

    ____

    This is the longest it has ever taken to scan this volume (cf my
    previous email of 25th March)____

    ____

    Is there anything that can be excluded?____

    ____

    Best regards____

    Mark____

    ____

    On Mon, 1 Apr 2019 at 17:11, Micah Snyder (micasnyd) via
    clamav-users <clamav-users@lists.clamav.net
    <mailto:clamav-users@lists.clamav.net>> wrote:____

        Thanks Oya for the update.  We will continue to investigate the
        signature performance issue.

        Regards,
        Micah

        On 3/28/19, 9:50 AM, "clamav-users on behalf of Tsutomu Oyamada"
        <clamav-users-boun...@lists.clamav.net
        <mailto:clamav-users-boun...@lists.clamav.net> on behalf of
        oyam...@promark-inc.com <mailto:oyam...@promark-inc.com>> wrote:

             Hi Micah

             It seems that the  scanning slow down issue of this time
        has been solved
             at some level with CVD Update of the other day.
             However, there is still big discrepancy in between the
        current condition and
             the last condition in one month ago.

             Date                Files               Scan time
             2019/02/15  2550338         08:53:57
             2019/03/15  2612792         19:22:54
             2019/03/26  2634489         18:13:56
             2019/03/27  2637201         18:10:05

             We know the improvement of this time is due to the details
        of CVD, because
             we did not make any change on the user's system.
             We are going to try some tuning for scanning.

             We like to know if you still have some room to make further
        improvement
             for this slow down issue.
             Thank you for your help, in advance.

             Best regards,
             Oya

             On Mon, 25 Mar 2019 15:45:02 +0000
             "Micah Snyder \(micasnyd\) via clamav-users"
        <clamav-users@lists.clamav.net
        <mailto:clamav-users@lists.clamav.net>> wrote:

             > Hi Mark, all:
             >
             > I’m disappointed to hear that it is still slow for you.
             >
             > We found that the target-type of signatures used for
        PhishTank.Phishing signatures were causing a significant
        slowdown.   We have dropped them as of this past Saturday (
        https://lists.gt.net/clamav/virusdb/75279 ) and in the last two
        updates have been re-adding them with more specific scan target
        types.  We’re now investigating some other optimizations we can
        make for the next major ClamAV release to improve scan times but
        at present we don’t have any other leads for signatures that may
        be slowing down scans.
             >
             > Regards,
             > Micah
             >
             >
             > From: clamav-users <clamav-users-boun...@lists.clamav.net
        <mailto:clamav-users-boun...@lists.clamav.net>> on behalf of
        Mark Allan via clamav-users <clamav-users@lists.clamav.net
        <mailto:clamav-users@lists.clamav.net>>
             > Reply-To: ClamAV users ML <clamav-users@lists.clamav.net
        <mailto:clamav-users@lists.clamav.net>>
             > Date: Monday, March 25, 2019 at 9:37 AM
             > To: ClamAV users ML <clamav-users@lists.clamav.net
        <mailto:clamav-users@lists.clamav.net>>
             > Cc: Mark Allan <markjal...@gmail.com
        <mailto:markjal...@gmail.com>>
             > Subject: Re: [clamav-users] Scan very slow
             >
             > Cheers Steve,
             >
             > In the interest of completeness, here's the scan from
        today (TXT from DNS: 0.101.1:58:25399:1553509741:1:63:48528:328)
        showing a marked improvement in scan time, although at 6m 7s
        it's still almost twice what it used to be.
             >
             > Mark
             >
             > On Mon, 25 Mar 2019 at 12:56, Steve Basford
        <steveb_cla...@sanesecurity.com
        
<mailto:steveb_cla...@sanesecurity.com><mailto:steveb_cla...@sanesecurity.com
        <mailto:steveb_cla...@sanesecurity.com>>> wrote:
             > On 2019-03-25 10:52, Mark Allan via clamav-users wrote:
             > > Hi all,
             > >
             > te.
             > >
             > > Hopefully this helps someone to narrow things down a bit.
             > >
             > > Mark
             > >
             >
             > 18/3/19         10m 49s         TXT from DNS:
             > 0.101.1:58:25392:1552904941:1:63:48507:328      ***
             >
             > Here's the changes for the above update:
             >
             > https://lists.gt.net/clamav/virusdb/75154
             >
             > You can also check sigs quickly per update:
             >
             > https://lists.gt.net/clamav/virusdb/
             >
             >
             >
             > --
             > Cheers,
             >
             > Steve
             > Twitter: @sanesecurity
             >
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