On Monday 11 May 2020 10:04:34 G.W. Haywood via clamav-users wrote: > Hi there, > > On Sun, 10 May 2020, Paul Kosinski via clamav-users wrote: > > Our email handling is [...snip...] > > Mail system design isn't really the topic for this list, so I won't > comment further on your setup. > > > (You might be surprised how much email to made-up user names ... > > Back in the 1980s I might have been surprised, but now about the only > thing that surprises me with emails is when one arrives which should > have been rejected by my filters. It happens very rarely, and when it > does I shout abuse at my screen. > > > P.S. G.W Haywood ought to consider something like our email reply > > database. > > You asked for help. I provided the help, and I explained that you can > contact me via this list. Please try to keep to the list topics. > > > When I replied to an email he sent me from what seemed to be > > his private email address (i.e., not his clamav address), it was > > held for a few days at his MTA, "timed out" > > No, if mail is delayed it's held on the sender's server, not on mine. > That's the whole point - upping the ante for spammers. Evidently my > take on email is different from what you'd like it to be, in that you > seem to think I should be trying harder to accept mail, whereas I'm > always trying to find more ways to reject it. My use of ClamAV, to > stay on topic, isn't about protection from viruses but about rejecting > the unwanted mail. To that end some of the third party databases kick > serious butt and at your request I've sent you privately a list of the > databases that I use. The official databases don't do much by way of > rejecting junk mail, but that's not really why they exist so it isn't > a criticism of them. > > As I've already explained to you, aside from the fact that your IPs > are on a blacklist, _all_ Level3 IPs are blacklisted here. Given the > history of Level3 and CenturyLink (who bought Level3 in 2017, and who > are also blacklisted here), that is unlikely to change anytime soon. > If you're offended that my servers won't accept your private mail then > please be assured that it isn't personal. I'm just blocking garbage, > and as I've explained there may unfortunately be collateral damage in > some cases - such as if you're in one of over a hundred blacklisted > countries, and/or you use IPs from one of a few named ASN owners, or > one of a few dozen specific ASNs. Regrettably AS3356 is one of those. > > > and was then bounced -- twice. > > Again no, my servers never bounce mail. Either it's accepted, or it's > rejected, or the sending server gives up. Until one of those results > appears there is the possibility of greylisting TEMPFAILs, but the way > that SMTP works means that the _sending_ server retains responsibility > for the message during the greylisting period. Something like 30% of > the IPs on the planet are firewalled here, so they can't even make a > TCP connection. The firewalling is dynamic, driven by a milter which > uses a custom database of things like ASNs, countries, and some other > things that I don't want to talk about in public. If a firewalled IP > tries to send mail it will get a "connection refused". The Internet > is infested by criminals, many of whom are sponsored by governments > and have vastly greater resources than we do, so I make no apologies > for that. > > You still seem to me to be worrying about the wrong things.
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