As long as you are using fresh clam, which handles incremental delta updates, 
and the instances are running correctly (not stuck in a loop or something 
silly), the best place to get updates is from database.clamav.net 
<http://database.clamav.net/>



> On Jan 27, 2021, at 5:45 AM, Vangelis Katsikaros via clamav-users 
> <clamav-users@lists.clamav.net> wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the actions Joel, my IPs are now unblocked.
> 
> I'd be interested to continue the discussion on 
> a) how to find the main & daily .inc and .cld files
> b) why in ubuntu 18.04 there is a systemd condition for the clamav-daemon to 
> run, but the files are not available for download
> I am afraid that in the long run my service could again DoS 
> database.clamav.net <http://database.clamav.net/> and it would be prudent for 
> me to proceed with the private mirror solution.
> 
> Regards
> Vangelis
> 
> On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 7:20 PM Joel Esler (jesler) <jes...@cisco.com 
> <mailto:jes...@cisco.com>> wrote:
> Let me remove the block for your IP and see what we see.
> 
>> On Jan 26, 2021, at 12:17 PM, Vangelis Katsikaros <vkatsika...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:vkatsika...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Joel, thanks for the quick response. We already download once every hour 
>> (the default ubuntu 18.04 behavior). However, we are using auto scaling and 
>> we might be running a large number of EC2 instances (a few hundreds), that 
>> could try to download simultaneously. To further scale without issues it 
>> seemed quite easy (and it was easy in practice) to use a private mirror. The 
>> system conditions and the cld & inc files is the only blocker to make this 
>> work :/
>> 
>> On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 7:00 PM Joel Esler (jesler) <jes...@cisco.com 
>> <mailto:jes...@cisco.com>> wrote:
>> Why wouldn’t you just download less often?  Instead of doing all of this?  
>> We publish updates once a day, there’s no need to download the entire 
>> package once a second.
>> 
>> -- 
>> Joel Esler
>> Manager, Communities Division
>> Cisco Talos Intelligence Group
>> http://www.talosintelligence.com <http://www.talosintelligence.com/> | 
>> https://www.snort.org <https://www.snort.org/>
>> 
>>> On Jan 26, 2021, at 11:46 AM, Vangelis Katsikaros via clamav-users 
>>> <clamav-users@lists.clamav.net <mailto:clamav-users@lists.clamav.net>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi
>>> 
>>> I am using Ubuntu 18.04 and recently found out that downloaind clamav files 
>>> was blocked by cloudflare. Based on 
>>> https://lists.clamav.net/pipermail/clamav-users/2020-April/009482.html 
>>> <https://lists.clamav.net/pipermail/clamav-users/2020-April/009482.html> I 
>>> contacted Joel Esler (many thanks for the quick reply) and inform me that 
>>> we were downloading too often. 
>>> 
>>> I tried to fix the situation by introducing a private mirror, but I ran 
>>> into problems with cld and inc files and systemd conditions for the 
>>> clamav-daemon service. I'd like to ask what are the "cld" and "inc" files, 
>>> and how to download them in order to meet the systemd condition that 
>>> requires them to be on disk?
>>> 
>>> I did the following steps:
>>> 1) Created a private mirror as described in 
>>> https://www.clamav.net/documents/private-local-mirrors 
>>> <https://www.clamav.net/documents/private-local-mirrors> and mirrored all 
>>> "cvd" files. 
>>> 
>>> 2) Cloud-init ensures that on boot the files are downloaded from the 
>>> private mirror and are always available locally. Tthen cloud-init restarts 
>>> the clamav daemon.
>>> 
>>> 3) Configured freshclam with
>>> PrivateMirror https://my-clamav-mirror/clamav 
>>> <https://my-clamav-mirror/clamav>
>>> ScriptedUpdates no
>>> Checks 3
>>> 
>>> 4) Now freshclam works fine, however the clamav daemon does not, even if 
>>> the cvd are available locally.
>>> $ sudo systemctl status clamav-daemon.service 
>>> ● clamav-daemon.service - Clam AntiVirus userspace daemon
>>>    Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/clamav-daemon.service; enabled; 
>>> vendor preset: enabled)
>>>   Drop-In: /etc/systemd/system/clamav-daemon.service.d
>>>            └─extend.conf
>>>    Active: inactive (dead)
>>> Condition: start condition failed at Tue 2021-01-26 12:46:17 UTC; 3h 9min 
>>> ago
>>>            └─ ConditionPathExistsGlob=/var/lib/clamav/daily.{c[vl]d,inc} 
>>> was not met
>>>      Docs: man:clamd(8)
>>>            man:clamd.conf(5)
>>>            https://www.clamav.net/documents/ 
>>> <https://www.clamav.net/documents/>
>>> 
>>> The systemd unit file has 2 ConditionPathExistsGlob that require the 
>>> additional files "main.cld", "main.inc", "daily.cld", "daily.inc" to be 
>>> available, for the service to start.
>>> $ cat /lib/systemd/system/clamav-daemon.service
>>> [Unit]
>>> Description=Clam AntiVirus userspace daemon
>>> Documentation=man:clamd(8) man:clamd.conf(5) 
>>> https://www.clamav.net/documents/ <https://www.clamav.net/documents/>
>>> # Check for database existence
>>> ConditionPathExistsGlob=/var/lib/clamav/main.{c[vl]d,inc}
>>> ConditionPathExistsGlob=/var/lib/clamav/daily.{c[vl]d,inc}
>>> 
>>> [Service]
>>> ExecStart=/usr/sbin/clamd --foreground=true
>>> # Reload the database
>>> ExecReload=/bin/kill -USR2 $MAINPID
>>> StandardOutput=syslog
>>> TimeoutStartSec=420
>>> 
>>> [Install]
>>> WantedBy=multi-user.target
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 5) The "main.cld", "main.inc", "daily.cld", "daily.inc" files are not 
>>> available to download from the main download site
>>> 
>>> $ curl --head -s https://database.clamav.net/daily.cld 
>>> <https://database.clamav.net/daily.cld>  | grep HTTP
>>> HTTP/2 404 
>>> $ curl --head -s https://database.clamav.net/daily.inc 
>>> <https://database.clamav.net/daily.inc>  | grep HTTP
>>> HTTP/2 404 
>>> $ curl --head -s https://database.clamav.net/main.cld 
>>> <https://database.clamav.net/main.cld>   | grep HTTP
>>> HTTP/2 404 
>>> $ curl --head -s https://database.clamav.net/main.inc 
>>> <https://database.clamav.net/main.inc>   | grep HTTP
>>> HTTP/2 404 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 6) I ran the suggested clamdownloader.pl <http://clamdownloader.pl/> (again 
>>> from https://www.clamav.net/documents/private-local-mirrors 
>>> <https://www.clamav.net/documents/private-local-mirrors>) but I don't see 
>>> any 
>>> $ ls -al /tmp/clam
>>> total 222848
>>> drwxrwxr-x  3 ubuntu ubuntu      4096 Jan 26 16:27 .
>>> drwxrwxrwt 93 root   root       12288 Jan 26 16:27 ..
>>> -rw-rw-r--  1 ubuntu ubuntu    296388 Sep 19  2019 bytecode.cvd
>>> -rw-rw-r--  1 ubuntu ubuntu 110005306 Jan 25 12:28 daily.cvd
>>> -rw-rw-r--  1 ubuntu ubuntu        42 Jan 26 16:27 dns.txt
>>> -rw-rw-r--  1 ubuntu ubuntu 117859675 Nov 25  2019 main.cvd
>>> drwxrwxr-x  2 ubuntu ubuntu      4096 Jan 26 16:27 temp
>>> 
>>> but I don't see any "main.cld", "main.inc", "daily.cld", "daily.inc" files.
>>> 
>>> Repeating the question in the beginning: I'd like to ask what are the "cld" 
>>> and "inc" files, and how to download in my private mirror in order to meet 
>>> the systemd condition that requires them to be on disk?
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> Vangelis Katsikaros
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> 
>>> clamav-users mailing list
>>> clamav-users@lists.clamav.net <mailto:clamav-users@lists.clamav.net>
>>> https://lists.clamav.net/mailman/listinfo/clamav-users 
>>> <https://lists.clamav.net/mailman/listinfo/clamav-users>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Help us build a comprehensive ClamAV guide:
>>> https://github.com/vrtadmin/clamav-faq 
>>> <https://github.com/vrtadmin/clamav-faq>
>>> 
>>> http://www.clamav.net/contact.html#ml 
>>> <http://www.clamav.net/contact.html#ml>
>> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> 
> clamav-users mailing list
> clamav-users@lists.clamav.net
> https://lists.clamav.net/mailman/listinfo/clamav-users
> 
> 
> Help us build a comprehensive ClamAV guide:
> https://github.com/vrtadmin/clamav-faq
> 
> http://www.clamav.net/contact.html#ml

Attachment: smime.p7s
Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature

_______________________________________________

clamav-users mailing list
clamav-users@lists.clamav.net
https://lists.clamav.net/mailman/listinfo/clamav-users


Help us build a comprehensive ClamAV guide:
https://github.com/vrtadmin/clamav-faq

http://www.clamav.net/contact.html#ml

Reply via email to