> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of 
Aaron
> M. Renn
> 
> John Keiser wrote:
> > You can add java.beans to the list.  It's done and up to 1.1 
compliance,
> > as far as I have tested it.  I haven't run it with the BeanBox, 
though.
> > I figure if we have something working, we may as well include it.
> 
> How useful are beans without a working awt? 
>  

They are useful, just not *as* useful without the GUI.  Invisible beans 
exist, and it is possible to create a text-based bean development tool, 
as well.  I figure, if there's no reason to put it out, and it works, 
why not leave it in?

> > java.lang.reflect is going to be totally overhauled for the VM
> > requirement.  No more VM independence on it; there's really no need 
for
> > it, since the VMs have to implement most of it internally anyway.
> 
> What does this mean?  You don't think reflection should be included?
>  

No, it should be included.  I'm just letting you know the actual status.

--John Keiser

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