Four different stories covering the topic: <URL:http://www.zdnet.co.uk/news/1999/16/ns-7955.html> <URL:http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,35889,00.html?st.ne.fd.gif.d> <URL:http://www.infoworld.com/cgi-bin/displayStory.pl?990429.icjava.htm> <URL:http://www.zdnet.com/pcweek/stories/news/0,4153,1014537,00.html> Seems as though Baratz said some fairly nasty stuff about the ISO process at the Java Enterprise Solutions Symposium in Paris. Afterwards, Urquhart, also of JavaSoft, tried to put a good spin on things for the press.