I let my account team know that 48 hour turnaround for the checks was too long. 
Now it's once a month.

I guess that's progress :(

-----Original Message-----
From: Cisco Clean Access Users and Administrators [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
Behalf Of Nathaniel Austin
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 9:33 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [CLEANACCESS] Microsoft Patch

Hey Bruce,

I understand your frustration at the situation - if I was in your place
I would feel the same way.

Thank you for alerting your account team about the situation. Ultimately
there is a much better chance of anything changing if they are involved.

Thanks,

Nate

Osborne, Bruce W. (NS) wrote:
> Nate,
>
> As a large institution, Liberty University cannot upgrade very often and we 
> need stable, reliable code. At our last decision point, the best code was 
> 4.1.2.1. This version requires our clients to use Cisco's preconfigured 
> checks. We cannot use the WSUS style requirements. Also, a majority of our 
> machines are owned my students, and not part of our domain.
>
> Cisco's customers were not notified of your policy change to release 
> preconfigured checks monthly, regardless of Microsoft's patch release.
>
> Due to the MS08-067 patch release & known exploit code and The BU's failure 
> to release a check, our network security is compromised unless we create our 
> own solution.
>
>
> The BU needs to reconsider their decision to allow known exploits on Cisco's 
> customer networks. Their job may depend on it!
>
>
> BTW, I have passed similar sentiments up to our account team & VAR.
>
> Bruce Osborne
> Liberty University
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cisco Clean Access Users and Administrators [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> On Behalf Of Nathaniel Austin
> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 8:58 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [CLEANACCESS] Microsoft Patch
>
> Hey Timothy,
>
> In my experiences you are one of the minority - most people want to
> minimize user impact and just trust Microsoft if there is a discrepancy.
> So if you like using our ruleset, then by all means don't change -
> unfortunately that ruleset is not going to add in a check for this
> hotfix until next month. I wish I could tell you otherwise, but thats
> the situation right now.
>
> Nate
>
> Riegert, Timothy J. wrote:
>
>> We've been using the Cisco checks and have noticed some instances where 
>> Windows Update reports no new updates to install, even though they are 
>> missing updates. Sometimes running a Windows Update fix script (re-registers 
>> .dlls, installs latest version of Windows Update client, etc.) fixes these 
>> computers and they'll be able to download the patches through Windows 
>> Update, but sometimes it doesn't help and they must manually install the 
>> updates. We are happy that the Cisco checks are helping to identify these 
>> discrepancies.
>>
>> Would I be accurate in stating the WSUS method assumes the Windows Update 
>> client is always working correctly?
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Cisco Clean Access Users and Administrators [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>> On Behalf Of Nathaniel Austin
>> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 9:45 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: Microsoft Patch
>>
>> Hey Mike,
>>
>> Word from the BU is that they will only update from Microsoft once a
>> month, so this one will not go into the checks and rule set until next
>> months Patch Tuesday release.
>>
>> So a preemptive apology to everyone out there who wants this now. I
>> think there are some good custom checks that some of you have created to
>> at least get it checked for in your environments in the meantime.
>>
>> I know this isn't really a consolation, but I think this again proves
>> that the WSUS style requirement that checks against Microsoft's WU
>> servers instead of our checks and rules is a much better option.
>>
>> Nate
>>
>> Mike Diggins wrote:
>>
>>
>>> On Mon, 27 Oct 2008, Osborne, Bruce W. (NS) wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> When I last checked this afternoon, Cisco still did not have their
>>>> check published. What happened to the commitment to publish within 48
>>>> hours of patch release??
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I was wondering that myself. I checked a few times today to see if it
>>> had been published. I normally only update my CCA servers once a
>>> month, so as not to annoy my clients too much, but this one seems like
>>> it needs special attention.
>>>
>>> -Mike
>>>
>>>

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