Hi all, 2012/5/11 florent andré <[email protected]>
> +1 > Good plan. > May also think about participation of the ApacheCon Eu this year. > Maybe a /demo or /5-minutes svn folder to show clerezza power to the > newbie ? > big +1, I should be there as well, we can discuss here what we'd like to show/highlight. > I don't want to restart the flame war, but do we keep the actual system > for website or go to apache's cms ? > I tried to update the website recently but I got some errors again so I put that activity on hold for now. I think we should try to make website update smarter, by improving our system or via Apache CMS. Regards, Tommaso > > ++ > > > On 05/07/2012 01:30 PM, Daniel Spicar wrote: > >> Good Points Tommaso, >> >> I extracted the discussion to its own thread in hope of raising some >> attention for the others to join in. >> >> So far I see a couple of categories of propositions: >> >> 1. Improving awareness of Clerezza: >> - "Powered by Clerezza" page. >> - Targetting specific communities that Clerezza or parts of it may be >> suited for, e.g. researchers >> - Get involved in GSoC or similar projects. >> >> 2. Making working with Clerezza easier for users: >> - More and better Documentation. >> - Better source tree structure >> >> Daniel >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Tommaso Teofili<tommaso.teofili@gmail.**com<[email protected]> >> > >> Date: 2 May 2012 00:08 >> Subject: Re: Report due on Wednesday >> To: [email protected].**org<[email protected]> >> >> >> Hi all, >> >> 2012/5/1 Daniel Spicar<[email protected]> >> >> We need to discuss a plan for community development for the report. >>> >>> >>> Here are my thoughts. I did not think this trough in great detail. It's >>> pretty much Brainstorming. >>> >>> It would be really good if we could get some more user interaction going. >>> As I see it there are several users of Clerezza but the only community we >>> hear from regularly is the Stanbol community. >>> >> >> This leads to a situation >> >>> where I have a bad overview of who our users are and what they want >>> improved. Am I just expecting too much? Does somebody know how such >>> interaction can be encouraged? >>> >>> >> In my past experience one thing that helps in getting new users (which >> will >> make questions) is presenting a list of applications which take advantage >> of the product. >> So something like a "powered by Clerezza" page on our website may help. >> >> >> Also I think we need to boost how a user/developer could read our code: if >> I were interested only in the (very nice) RDF API Clerezza provides then I >> may get lost when looking at the source code tree (look at [1]) so we may >> structure the module tree some more in more conceptually related >> submodules. >> Something like: >> rdf-api >> jax-rs >> storage >> security >> ontologies >> tools >> >> >> >>> Another approach we could try is to get involved in something like GSoC >>> or >>> get students to work with/on Clerezza as part of their studies projects. >>> >> We >> >>> do have some connections to the University of Zurich and other >>> institutions. >>> >>> >> +1 >> >> >> >>> Third, maybe we could 'hook' some researchers on Clerezza, or at least >>> the >>> Clerezza API. From my experience at the University of Zurich, Jena is the >>> de-facto standard and many researchers don't even know that Clerezza >>> >> exist. >> >> However to get them to use Clerezza we probably need to offer them some >> >>> benefits. That probably means to invest quite some work into integrating >>> some functionality they want but that Jena is not offering. >>> >>> >> That was my experience as well, as far as I can say researchers don't care >> much about this or that project as long as they have "a good thing for >> that >> which just works" so your proposal of highlighting the Clerezza benefits >> would make sense. >> >> Apart from that I think we need to write some more documentation, I >> remember we talked about having MoinMoin for our wiki. IMHO we should just >> use that and add links on our website. >> >> My 2 cents, >> Tommaso >> >> >> >>> What do you think? Any totally different approachers? >>> >>> Daniel >>> >>> >> >> [1] : http://svn.apache.org/repos/**asf/incubator/clerezza/trunk/** >> parent/<http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/clerezza/trunk/parent/> >> >> >> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: Bertrand Delacretaz<bdelacretaz@apache.**org<[email protected]> >>> > >>> Date: 1 May 2012 12:46 >>> Subject: Re: Report due on Wednesday >>> To: [email protected].**org<[email protected]> >>> >>> >>> The >>> http://wiki.apache.org/**incubator/February2012<http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/February2012>report >>> said >>> >>> ...We need to discuss a plan for community development with our mentors >>>> for the next board report. The next report will contain some clear >>>> actions.... >>>> >>> >>> I don't think that has happened - the board meeting is in two weeks, >>> so IMO there's still a bit of time for this to happen, even if you >>> submit the report tomorrow. >>> >>> -Bertrand >>> >>> >>
