Larry,

I submitted https://bugs.openjdk.org/browse/JDK-8321428.
I've assigned it to you, on the assumption you are interested.
Obviously no particular urgency around this.

-phil.

On 9/21/23 4:48 PM, Laurence Cable wrote:
Hi Phillip, inline ...

On 9/21/23 4:16 PM, Philip Race wrote:
Hi Larry,

Deprecation happens either because there is a preferred replacement or because something is dangerous or obsolete. This is a slightly blurred case, since it seems to be obsoleted by
a preferred pattern that doesn't involve a JDK replacement API.

I guess the first question I have is do you mean just "deprecate" and provide pointers, or do you mean "deprecate for removal". The latter needs more consideration, like

I mean the latter - eventual removal, return some bytes for better usage since its my opinion beancontext is long past being obsolete... its pretty much only of historical/archeological interest at this point in time! :)


(1) Is any actively supported software still using this ?

I intend to perform some corpus searches to determine this (to the degree possible)

(2) How hard would it be for them to migrate to something else ? And how reasonable is it to expect them to do so?

I would anticipate that any code written after the onset of Spring, Guice etc would have already abandoned beancontext!

(3) What's the ripple effect in the JDK ? Does it impact the java.beans package too in some ways ?

AFIAK/recall the beancontext and beans pkgs are effectively independent of each other ... at least in the dependency 'direction' of beans -> beancontext.

I do not recall any other packages (e.g awt) using it, but a search of the JDK will confirm this.

beancontext did not really gain any significant adoption that I was aware of, once DI/IoT became the de facto model for component/bean assembly with Spring and that percolated down into SE from EE, along with OSGi (which also had overlap in the area of service/interface brokerage)

Rgds

- Larry


-phil.


On 9/20/23 5:18 PM, Laurence Cable wrote:
The BeanContext.* package was added (by me) quite early in the lifetime of java beans (1.2); based loosely on some of the concepts of the opendoc component framework, it was intended to provide a "container" for JavaBeans components to collaborate with each other by exposing both their presence (within a context)
and to provide/consume 'services' expressed as interfaces.

(we even demoed this functionality in the "beanbox" for those that recall that)

This package pre-dated the invention/discovery of Inversion of Control and (annotation based) Dependency Injection by a good number of years; and as those latter design patterns and their implementations became popular, Bean Context did not evolve, and I would argue, became rapidly irrelevant if not actually an anti-pattern!

Now some 25 yrs later, it is probably beyond definition as an anachronism and long overdue to be depreciated from the JDK.

Therefore I would like to propose doing so, and open the discussion regarding this here.

Regards

- Larry



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