> Maven is a bit heavy and obnoxious, but it does do a lot to
> manage dependencies among versioned libraries, and there's already a
> lot of tool support for it, already a fairly-well-mirrored repo,
> already a URL naming convention for libraries that aren't in the main
> repo, etc.

Right, I didn't want to co-opt Drew's thread with a discussion about
library management. There may be things that could (should) be
borrowed from Maven (such as the repo and its conventions), but Maven
is a build tool, and I'm thinking more about the runtime support that
a library management system would provide, like dynamically adding
jars to the classpath when you do (require 'something) and adding a
specific version when you (require '[something :version 2.3]). Just
ideas, as I'm sure many others have. Again, I didn't want to get into
this discussion, just to point out that some kind of future support
for library management might be useful on the proposed site.

> Now I agree that a central repo is much more valuable to users once
> there _are_ versioned libraries, and not just a bunch of git repos;
> but it makes a great deal of sense for early developers (like you,
> gentle readers) to think now about the eventual library repository
> scheme.  On the other hand, if I want to use Jetty as an HTTP
> container, or the MySQL JDBC drivers for database access, or any of a
> very large number of other Java libraries, we _already_ have versioned
> releases.

Agreed. I'm not saying that a central repo is necessary, just that it
is useful especially for newbs, and with a young community I think it
helps to concentrate interest and collaboration, rather than to have
it spread thinly. That's why I think the site Drew is proposing would
be a good idea.

> So shall we think, then, about a standard way to stuff code written in
> Clojure into jar files? Is there already such a standard around here
> that I'm ignorant of? If not, the structure of clojure.jar itself (as
> composed by ant) seems at least to be a good point of reference.

I think there is already a standard way to stuff Clojure code into
jars (c.f. the clojure-contrib project). Clojure files are just found
on the classpath, so they can be put directly into JARs.

> --josh

Paul

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