On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 6:52 AM, Meikel Brandmeyer <m...@kotka.de> wrote: > > Hello Mark, > > On 19 Dez., 13:36, "Mark Volkmann" <r.mark.volkm...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > If you don't need this, you don't have to use it. > > Ok. That was a stupid statement. But at least it is > not the rationale for including condp (in whatever > form).
I like the idea behind condp. I'm just not crazy about the ":>" part of it. >> I feel very strongly that Clojure, and any programming language, >> should avoid using this rationale when adding support for new syntax. >> Just because a developer chooses not to use a particular feature >> doesn't mean they don't have to understand it. They will have to read >> the code that other developers write and those developers may use the >> feature. > > Then we are in trouble anyway. The reason: macros. Any > developer can basically do whatever he wants with macros. > Just because something looks like normal clojure code, doesn't > mean that it is. It could be a macro, controlling the evaluation > of the arguments. So "adding support for new syntax" is > basically happening every day. I agree that we can't control that. We can control the set of macros that are a standard part of Clojure though. > The question is whether this should go to clojure.core or not. > That's a different story. In contrib there is fcase and cond-let. > I used both in my code several times, now. So (at least for > me) there is some practical interest to have an often used > form available in core. I agree that condp belongs in core. > My stupid statement above is not the rationale for including it. > > Sorry in case I offended you. No offense taken! I just wanted to express my thoughts on keeping the language as simple as possible. I suspect my views on this are in the minority. Most developers seem to love having TIMTOWDI. -- R. Mark Volkmann Object Computing, Inc. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
