That is exciting!  Have you posted any code or advice/instruction on
how one could repeat what you did with Clojure on the Android phone?

Rob

On Feb 6, 12:29 pm, "Remco van 't Veer" <rwvtv...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Got startup time down to 5 seconds by completely eliminating the use
> of lispreader and putting of loading the xml, set and zip namespaces.
> There's no clear bottlenecks left to fix.
>
> On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 1:06 AM, Remco van 't Veer <rwvtv...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I've managed to get to startup time down from 12 seconds to 7 on the
> > emulator and hope get it below 4 seconds tomorrow.  A lot of time is
> > spend in LispReader when the core constants are initialized.  I've
> > altered the compiler to emit type specific code for the basic cases,
> > thus bypassing LispReader.  Need to learn more about GeneratorAdapter,
> > and need sleep, before I can speedup the loading of, for instance, seq
> > contants.
>
> > My changes are available at github;http://github.com/remvee/clojure
>
> > Remco
>
> > On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 5:55 PM, Remco van 't Veer <rwvtv...@gmail.com> 
> > wrote:
> >> Having a lisp to do android app development is definately worth some 
> >> efford.
> >> Kawa already has some android support in svn trunk but it doesn't seem in a
> >> usable state; my experiments break because a lot of expressions do not seem
> >> to compile AOT. The parts that do compile are very fast on the other hand.
>
> >> But if it comes down to app development I would of course prefer clojure
> >> over kawa's schema and scheme over java..
>
> >> I hope to do some tracing to find out what slowing down the startup later
> >> this week and will keep the list in formed. If anybody has any suggestions
> >> please yes pretty please.
>
> >> Remco
>
> >> On Feb 4, 2009 3:59 PM, "igorrumiha" <igorrum...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> On Feb 4, 10:12 am, "Remco van 't Veer" <rwvtv...@gmail.com> wrote: >
> >> Caching Reflector.getMethods,...
>
> >> I would also be interested in running Clojure on the Android. I tried
> >> running a "Hello world" application on the emulator but the startup
> >> time od 15 seconds put me off. There is definitely room for
> >> improvement. I don't have much experience in Java (zero would be the
> >> best description) so I don't really know where to start with
> >> profiling.
>
> >> I've run the application through the Instrumentation mechanism and the
> >> trace shows me that much of the time is spent in a huge amount of
> >> calls to some character compare methods (something like 200000 calls)
> >> (I don't have the trace with me right now so I don't have the exact
> >> numbers and I don't know the exact method name).
>
> >> I find this curious when I know that all code is compiled ahead of
> >> time. When I get the chance I will recreate that call graph an upload
> >> it to the files section.
>
> >> --
> >> IgorR
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