Outreachy seems like a great program but like most things, it requires
significant time and money (https://www.outreachy.org/mentor/).

They need an organization coordinator who can apply, find funds
($6500/intern), find mentors, help develop and assess projects. They also
need mentors who are expected to spend 5-10 hrs/week for 6 weeks during the
project.

I'm not aware of anyone with the time or money to commit to an effort like
this for Clojure.


On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 3:51 PM Noor Afshan Fathima <afshan.shok...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hello,
> GSOC would be great. Can someone also look into getting Clojure to
> participate in Outreachy?
>
> On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 at 10:18 PM, Alex Miller <a...@puredanger.com> wrote:
>
>> As far as I'm aware the work involved here is:
>>
>> - submitting the organization application (in Jan)
>> - soliciting and writing up project ideas (in Jan/Feb)
>> - soliciting potential mentors for each project (often there is a natural
>> match between idea and mentor) - spring
>> - pairing up selected students/projects and mentors - spring
>> - getting mentors to write evals for their students - summer
>> - accepting funds - fall
>> - if desired, distributing those funds in some way (when I helped
>> Cognitect run it, we redistributed the funds to pay for students to travel
>> to Clojure conferences) - fall
>>
>> Great opportunity for someone to contribute!
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 10:35 AM Daniel Compton <
>> daniel.compton.li...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi folks, I'm the secretary of Clojurists Together.
>>>
>>> Thanks very much for the background on GSoC and the kind words Alex :)
>>>
>>> Clojurists Together would be happy to help provide the backing admin
>>> infrastructure (bank accounts, international payments, etc.) and oversight
>>> to help run GSoC. However, I don't think anyone on the committee has the
>>> bandwidth to be the primary person to lead the GSoC project; we'd need
>>> someone from the community to volunteer to be that person.
>>>
>>> If someone else wants to run this as part of a different organisation
>>> that's also totally fine with us, don't consider this us calling "dibs".
>>>
>>> Thanks, Daniel.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 9:34 AM Alex Miller <a...@puredanger.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> GSoC is an amazing opportunity if you get the right combination of an
>>>> appropriately sized project, a motivated student, and a mentor that has
>>>> both sufficient availability and expertise in guiding (like Ambrose's Typed
>>>> Clojure work). If any of those aren't right, the project tends to fizzle
>>>> out or go unused so a lot of the time and effort does not result in an
>>>> effectual end result.
>>>>
>>>> To some degree, Clojurists Together is doing the same kind of work but
>>>> prioritizing projects that people care about and developers that are
>>>> already "in" the project rather than students starting fresh (and paying
>>>> more for the work). I think CT has created way more total value for the
>>>> community than GSoC ever did.
>>>>
>>>> But again, depends on goals. If your goal is to connect students more
>>>> closely to Clojure, then GSoC is great for that.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, December 3, 2019 at 2:06:13 PM UTC-6, Daniel Slutsky wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Ag, Alex, many thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> These days some of us are trying to think where we should put our
>>>>> efforts in the next few months. This might be one of the things we have to
>>>>> consider. We'll update if we do.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, 3 December 2019 17:20:47 UTC+2, Alex Miller wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any "group" or organization can submit a project to GSoC as long as
>>>>>> there are 2+ committers and there are existing releases under an OSI
>>>>>> license (which includes EPL). The organization select projects, connects
>>>>>> mentors to students, prods people about evaluations, and receives
>>>>>> $500/completed student. Students submit proposals (usually these should
>>>>>> happen under consultation with the project) and are directly paid 
>>>>>> stipends
>>>>>> by Google for completed projects. I think the organization application is
>>>>>> usually open in January.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think there are several groups in the Clojure ecosystem that would
>>>>>> potentially be great orgs for this - CIDER, ClojureBridge, clj-commons, 
>>>>>> etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tuesday, December 3, 2019 at 5:23:43 AM UTC-6, Ag Ibragimov wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Would you do it Daniel, would you apply? I apologize for if that
>>>>>>> sounds like I'm brazenly pushing you. If I had capacity to do that, I 
>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>> volunteer, alas I'm afraid I don't even know how that works.
>>>>>>> It would be awesome if Clojure once again accepted in GSoC. How can
>>>>>>> we (ordinary Clojuristas) help to get there?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun 01 Dec 2019 at 15:12, Daniel Slutsky <daniel...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > Thanks so much, that helps to know.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > On Sunday, 1 December 2019 06:36:33 UTC+2, Alex Miller wrote:
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> We applied and were not accepted for a couple years. Having done
>>>>>>> some of
>>>>>>> >> the admin/org stuff in the past, I don't really want to do it
>>>>>>> again, but an
>>>>>>> >> organization like Clojurists Together would be great for that
>>>>>>> part
>>>>>>> >> (although I'm not looking to add any work to anyone else either).
>>>>>>> It's not
>>>>>>> >> really that hard, just a little tedious to deal with the money
>>>>>>> parts.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> On Saturday, November 30, 2019 at 1:37:14 PM UTC-6, Daniel
>>>>>>> Slutsky wrote:
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> Hi all,
>>>>>>> >>> has there been thoughts about clojure activity in GSoC since
>>>>>>> 2017?
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> On Monday, 6 March 2017 11:35:41 UTC+2, Daniel Solano Gómez
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> We are pleased to announce that Google has selected Clojure as
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> >>>> mentoring organisation for this year’s summer of code! This
>>>>>>> means that
>>>>>>> >>>> Google will sponsor students from around the world to work on
>>>>>>> projects that
>>>>>>> >>>> are part of the Clojure ecosystem. Now that we know that
>>>>>>> Clojure will be
>>>>>>> >>>> participating, what happens next?
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> Getting involved
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> The student application period will be open from the 20th of
>>>>>>> March
>>>>>>> >>>> through the 3rd of April. In the meantime, there are a number
>>>>>>> of ways to
>>>>>>> >>>> get involved:
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> *Mentors*
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> If you maintain an open source Clojure(Script) project and
>>>>>>> would like to
>>>>>>> >>>> grow it, you should consider becoming a mentor. You can find
>>>>>>> out more about
>>>>>>> >>>> what being a mentor is about out on the mentors page
>>>>>>> >>>> <http://clojure-gsoc.org/mentors/>.
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> *Students*
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> While it is still to early to formally apply as GSoC student,
>>>>>>> this is a
>>>>>>> >>>> great time to start thinking about project ideas and reach out
>>>>>>> to potential
>>>>>>> >>>> mentors. Check out the students page <
>>>>>>> http://clojure-gsoc.org/students/>
>>>>>>> >>>> for more information on how to apply successfully.
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> *Everyone else*
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> Even if you can’t participate as student or don’t want to be a
>>>>>>> mentor,
>>>>>>> >>>> you can still help by letting people know about GSoC at your
>>>>>>> local Clojure
>>>>>>> >>>> meetup, university, or other local group.
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> Thanks
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> We would also like to extend a big thank you to all of the
>>>>>>> people who
>>>>>>> >>>> contributed to our project ideas
>>>>>>> >>>> <http://clojure-gsoc.org/project-ideas/>.  Without their help,
>>>>>>> it is
>>>>>>> >>>> likely our application would not have been a success.
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>
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