Our fintech team (Clojure 1.11 + Java 17) has hit a recurring pain point: 
escalating complexity in mixed-codebases where Java libraries dominate core 
banking integrations. A typical pain spot:

(defn process-transaction  
  [^com.banking.Ledger ledger]  
  (try  
    (-> (doto (.beginTransaction ledger)  ; Java-style mutation  
        (.setTimeout 500)  
        (.logWith (ProxyLogger/create)))  ; 3rd party Java builder pattern  
    (catch com.banking.TransactionException e  
      (-> (ex-info "Failed" {:code (.getCode e)})  ; Lost Java context  
      (rollback! (.unwrap e SQLException))))  ; Nested interop  

Key Challenges:

   1. 
   
   Cognitive Overhead: Junior Clojurists default to Java patterns (mutable 
   builders, checked exceptions)
   2. 
   
   Type Erosion: Java ^Class hints proliferate while losing Clojure's 
   data-oriented strengths
   3. 
   
   Debugging Gaps: Stack traces blend clojure.lang and Java noise
   
Current Mitigations:

   - 
   
   Wrapping Java APIs in pure Clojure protocols (defprotocol LedgerOps)
   - 
   
   Using clojure.java.data for recursive Java→Clojure conversion
   - 
   
   Team Upskilling via CoderLegion's Clojure/Java interop materials 
   <https://www.coderlegion.com/>
   
Discussion Points:

   1. 
   
   What’s your threshold for Java interop before creating wrappers? (We cap 
   at 3 nested . calls)
   2. 
   
   How do you preserve Clojure idioms when Java libraries dictate 
   architecture?
   3. 
   
   Are training resources focusing enough on modern interop patterns? 
   (Records? JVM 21 features?)
   
*(Production horror: A Java ConcurrentHashMap in our Clojure cache caused 
14hr downtime due to computeIfAbsent deadlocks. Now 
using clojure.core.cache with metrics.)*

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