Click answers that himself: Clojure usage failure.
The particular scenario he is demonstrating is known and has been brought up
before. Also it's probably only reproduceable when you have a truly large
number of cores (like a 600 way Azul box). In anycase Rich Hickey does not
advise against locks when appropriate. Here Click is intentionally applying
the wrong solution to the problem perhaps to point out that STM is not magic
bullet.

But we already knew that :)

On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 4:15 AM, Roberto Mannai <roberm...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Also the slide 21 should worth an answer: a benchmark of STM with more CPU
> gives "Performance died – choked in the STM"
>
> On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 9:22 AM, Michael Wood <esiot...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> 2009/9/17 z5h <bolusm...@gmail.com>:
>> >
>> > Specifically some problems encountered in Clojure's STM and bytecode
>> > generation.
>> >
>> >
>> http://www.azulsystems.com/events/javaone_2009/session/2009_J1_JVMLang.pdf
>> > (Slide's 8 and 20-21)
>>
>> I suppose you mean slide 9 rather than 8:
>>
>> > Clojure - “almost close”
>> > * Good: no obvious subroutine calls in inner loop
>> > * Bad: Massive “ephemeral” object allocation - requires good GC
>> > * But needs Escape Analysis to go really fast
>> > * Ugly: fix-num overflow checks everywhere
>> > * Turn off fix-nums: same speed as Java
>> > * Weird “holes” -
>> >     * Not-optimized reflection calls here & there
>> >     * Can get reports on generated reflection calls
>>
>> Just mentioning that since nobody's commented on it yet.
>>
>> --
>> Michael Wood <esiot...@gmail.com>
>>
>>
>>
>
> >
>

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