Thank you for the discussion - even if I dont understand it
immediately ;-)

Grettings, alux

On 5 Mai, 17:32, David Nolen <dnolen.li...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 11:11 AM, Sean Devlin <francoisdev...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > I think there's a fundamental assumption that I disagree with.
>
> > Since we've already opened the can of worms that is auto-promotion, it
> > should *always* work.  Given auto-promotion, + shouldn't be fast (use
> > unchecked-add), it should be predictable.  Same for -, * and friends.
> > Quality is more important than performance, principle of least
> > surprise, etc.
>
> > Sean
>
> unchecked arithmetic operations are discouraged because ... they are
> unchecked. + is fast *and* it checks for overflow on primitive types. Again
> + is not doing any auto-promoting here. Putting a primitive in a var is.
> Case 1 in the OP is the surprise for those who don't know that. Case 2 is
> the correct behavior that I've come to expect from + when passing in
> primitive types.
>
> For those who rely on fast arithmetic, having +, * and friends be slow is
> simply unacceptable (and that's not a small number of Clojurians, and it
> should include anyone wishes to see a performant Clojure written in itself).
>
> This is a conceptual break from some other dynamic languages - but then the
> performance guarantees of those languages is nothing to brag about either.
> Clojure ships with great performance guarantees - that's a feature.
>
> David
>
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