Hi,

   From today, I will not receive updates from this group, so if
anyone cares to answer this question, please send me an email:
dil...@gmail.com. I do think that this is an important question to
many people that liked a lot the Clojure concurrency model but cannot
use Clojure in their day to day programs.

   Cheers,

Dilvan

On Nov 22, 12:58 pm, Dilvan <dil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>    Hi,
>
>    During the discussions of the topic "Jython Interoperability
> problem",
> Mikhail Kryshen suggested implementations of Clojure data structures
> outside Clojure:
>
> >Clojure's data structures modified for use outside of Clojure:
> >http://github.com/krukow/clj-ds
> >Persistent analogue of the Java Collections Framework:
> >http://code.google.com/p/pcollections/
>
>    I've been using the Clojure libraries (immutable collections and
> Refs) in Java programs (a version of the Manchester OWL-API). Reading
> the documentation for the Clojure replacements suggested by Mikhail,
> they imply that the implementations inside the official Clojure
> libraries are inefficient (in terms of speed and memory) if used in
> Java only applications (no Clojure code) AND that, in the future, they
> may demand that all of the Clojure machinery be loaded with them. Is
> there any official view/police about this issue?
>
>    The question I need to answer is: Should I keep using the Clojure
> libraries in my programs or migrate them to some other implementation
> of immutable collections + Refs (STM) + (maybe) actors?
>
>    Advices are welcomed :-)
>
> DIlvanMoreira

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