On Jul 17, 6:43 pm, javajosh <javaj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 8, 8:37 pm, Christian Marks <9fv...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > The moral of this story is: don't let anyone clip your wings.
>
> Well said. That is my take away too. It is surprising how to me how
> much weight people give to the assertions of others, famous or not. In
> truth, this human endeavor of programming (as all else) is really just
> a series of experiments, some grander than others, some will succeed,
> some fail, (and sometimes oscillate between success and failure over
> time :)

I was responding to the idea that one should play around with Java for
a few
months before getting involved with Clojure. Spending months with a
language
whose idea of a type system is one in which the only operation on
types is
sub-classing sounds like a recipe for instantaneous profound boredom.
Perhaps
Java has improved its type system, but whatever it is, it isn't
homotopy type theory
(cf. http://homotopytypetheory.org/ ).

...
> So that, Chris, is why out of 125 posts (or so) I wanted to respond to
> yours, because you have done the experiment. Frankly, I'm not really
> sure if it's a good idea or not to reimplement Java libraries like
> Swing in Clojure, but I do know that we won't know unless someone
> gives it a shot.
>
> -- Josh

I didn't re-implement Swing--it was just a translation of a demo from
a
language I didn't know into another I didn't  know, using a build
system
I didn't know. I did manage to learn more by doing several things at
once,
instead of plodding through one language at a time; e.g., I saw how
to
handle resources in Clojure in conjunction with Leiningen (cute name:
the author seems to have been "bitten" by Ant). What I posted was a
second iteration--I wasn't making use of doto, for or if-let at first,
incidentally.


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