+1 Luc, You have to let go. There was something I read once from Alistair and said that people prefer familiarity over comfort, this is a real problem, because when people get used to something it's really hard to show them something more comfortable. I was shocked when I found myself choosing familiarity over comfort, for example I tend to drive following the routes I know better.
And this is another one that I think is good to remember, this come from Leo Tolstoy "The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow- witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of doubt, what is laid before him" My intention is not to offend anyone. I think it's great to see how people have fun with this great language, and for me is really fun to see how they are trying crazy things, just thinking on what you are trying to do here and see if that's possible on another language is mind blowing, but that's all, just an exercise. See you around Erlis On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 11:32 AM, Softaddicts <lprefonta...@softaddicts.ca>wrote: > I am a polyglot programmer and never insisted to change the look of any > language. > I used them as is assuming that many people worked on their design for > several man years, more that I could spend myself on any of these design > decisions > and their impacts. > > I worked with at least a dozen of these (on the job, not as a hobby) for > the last 30 years. > > You cannot make everything a nail so you can hammer on anything with a > single tool. > > A choice has been made to use a lisp-like syntax. Just shift your brains > accordingly, > I can still do it at 50+, it should not be too hard to do for younger > people :))) > > This discussion comes back every year or so. I would really be > flabergasted if Clojure Core > accepts such a change. > > If it is so much a hurdle, then maybe people not at ease with the syntax > should instead > stick with an Algol like language and that's perfectly fine. They are a > few on the jvm, > just pick one. > > Luc > > > True, lack of conciseness may not be the first thing that comes to mind > > when speaking about Lisps :-) > > > > What I should have said is that I think equivalent Python code has fewer > > 'noise' symbols than S-expressions. Of course, that depends greatly on > how > > the programs are structured. > > > > And, that brings us back to readability. Since this subject keeps popping > > up, over years and even decades, maybe there's something here that the > Lisp > > experts don't quite understand? Maybe it has something to do with > programs > > needing to be quickly understood, even by non-experts? > > > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "Clojure" group. > > To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com > > Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with > your first post. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en > -- > Softaddicts<lprefonta...@softaddicts.ca> sent by ibisMail! > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Clojure" group. > To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com > Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with > your first post. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
