Thanks and these are certainly workable solutions. But is there any
particular reason why with commute the update function is ALWAYS
called twice, even when no other thread changed the ref value at the
commit time? That is what bothers me.

On May 17, 5:46 pm, DAemon <forsakendae...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Would some of this difficulty be ameliorated by calling memoize on the
> function that you use? That way, if it's an expensive function, and the
> value hasn't changed, it's just looked up rather than recalculated.
>
> - DAemon
>
> On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 6:28 AM, Stuart Sierra
> <the.stuart.sie...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
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> > I think the point with `commute` is to allow for more concurrency at the
> > expense of more computation.
>
> > If you want assurance that your function is only called once, you can use
> > `alter`.
>
> > Keep in mind that *any* code in a Ref transaction has the potential to be
> > called more than once if there's a conflict.
>
> > All this doesn't mean that it's impossible to avoid the duplicate
> > computation on `commute`. The code to study would be here:
>
> >https://github.com/clojure/clojure/blob/8fda34e4c77cac079b711da59d5fe...
>
> > -S
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