Thanks, Joshua. On Wednesday, July 18, 2012 6:38:10 PM UTC+2, Joshua Bowles wrote: > > I've made a request to Udacity and forwarded Harrison Maseko's suggestions > in my request. > > I'm sure if enough people get behind this... > > On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 10:33 AM, Joshua Bowles <bowlesl...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> Peter Norvig's response: >> >> Possible ... Udacity would be more likely -- they seem to be more >> skill-based whereas Coursera is more academic-based. >> >> >> On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Joshua Bowles <bowlesl...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> I agree. My thinking with an AI class is that as LISP used to be taught >>> for AI in school, and most programs offer Java classes, there's got to be a >>> few Professors out there who really dig Clojure and have a good chance >>> teaching it. I didn't propose a "functional programming" course because >>> they already have that with Scala (not to say they wouldn't offer another). >>> >>> As far as Udacity, Peter Norvig is somehow related with Udacity (not >>> sure what his role is), he's an old school LISPer and he's totally familiar >>> with Java. I don't know if he's into Clojure (but he's definitely not >>> against the idea of LISP running on JVM --- he wrote is own version a while >>> back with scheme http://norvig.com/jscheme.html). I'll email him and >>> see if he's interested. >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 9:08 AM, Harrison Maseko <lis...@gmail.com>wrote: >>> >>>> That sounds like a good move, if a professor at some at one of those >>>> Coursera linked universities would be willing to do that. However, can the >>>> same request be sent to Udacity? Also, is AI the only practical course to >>>> suggest? I would like to suggest to Udacity, "Introduction to Functional >>>> Programming." Another course I would suggest is, "Building a Dynamic >>>> Contacts Application for the Cloud," and the third one would be "Game >>>> Development in Clojure" or something more focused like "Fluid Dynamics for >>>> Game Development." All these could use Clojure. >>>> -h. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, July 18, 2012 4:29:04 PM UTC+2, Joshua Bowles wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Yes! Just this morning (before reading this thread) I emailed Coursera >>>>> to request a course like "Artificial Intelligence in Clojure". I posted >>>>> on >>>>> a separate thread here ("community interest in machine learning(?)") that >>>>> I >>>>> had made the request and provided a link for anyone else who wanted to >>>>> make >>>>> a request: >>>>> >>>>> http://help.coursera.org/**customer/portal/emails/new<http://help.coursera.org/customer/portal/emails/new> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 8:18 AM, Harrison Maseko <lis...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Yann, >>>>>> I agree that Udacity is more approachable in this regard than >>>>>> Coursera. But imagine the publicity the language would get if such a >>>>>> massive audience were given exposure to Clojure and Clojurescript. I >>>>>> have >>>>>> always believed that a subset of Clojure (or any Lisp) could be taught >>>>>> even >>>>>> to programming beginners with ease. This in turn could dispel much of >>>>>> the >>>>>> myths surrounding Lisp-based languages to thousands at once (one of >>>>>> which >>>>>> is 'Lisp is difficult.' Simple as it may sound, it has deterred many >>>>>> from >>>>>> even peering into a Lisp). However, with a platform like Udacity, the >>>>>> instructor is at liberty to really explain in a newbie-friendly way the >>>>>> elegance and power of a language such as Clojure. The brief lesson >>>>>> videos >>>>>> would perhaps be a more navigable route to Clojure for some than reading >>>>>> a >>>>>> book. All we need is an attractive, *practical* topic (which can be >>>>>> suggested by anyone here), a reputable instructor, and a way of engaging >>>>>> Udacity faculty about our offer. And I wish that this process could >>>>>> begin >>>>>> sooner. >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> -h. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wednesday, July 18, 2012 3:16:56 PM UTC+2, Yann Schwartz wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 3:01 PM, Harrison Maseko >>>>>>> <lis...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi All, >>>>>>>> Massive Open Online Courses (MOOC) such as the ones offered by >>>>>>>> Udacity <http://www.udacity.com>, Coursera<http://www.coursera.org/>, >>>>>>>> and soon edX <http://www.edxonline.org> will eventually become >>>>>>>> platforms from which a language can be showcased and exposed to a very >>>>>>>> wide >>>>>>>> audience. Here are a few examples, all from >>>>>>>> Coursera<https://www.coursera.org/> >>>>>>>> : >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - Scala: Functional Programming Principles in >>>>>>>> Scala.<https://www.coursera.org/course/progfun> >>>>>>>> - R: Computing for Data >>>>>>>> Analysis.<https://www.coursera.org/course/compdata> >>>>>>>> - Python: An Introduction to Interactive Programming In >>>>>>>> Python <https://www.coursera.org/course/interactivepython>. >>>>>>>> - C++/Java: Compilers<https://www.coursera.org/course/compilers> >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> - Java: Automata<https://www.coursera.org/course/automata> >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Udacity has used Python and/or Javascript in some, if not most, of >>>>>>>> their recent courses. What do you think, will there ever be a chance >>>>>>>> for a >>>>>>>> Clojure/ClojureScript-based course to be offered on one of these >>>>>>>> platforms? >>>>>>>> What can the community do to create such a chance? Or is this perhaps >>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>> important at all? >>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>> -h. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Coursera only provides courses backed by established universities, >>>>>>> so it may rule out community-based offerings. Udacity's case is >>>>>>> different >>>>>>> but the offering is more focused and very Python oriented. IMO, Udacity >>>>>>> with its online Python editor and overall delivery style would be a >>>>>>> better >>>>>>> match for a clojure/clojurescript REPL approach. I have no idea how to >>>>>>> get >>>>>>> in touch with Dr Thrun et al about this, my only experience so far is >>>>>>> with >>>>>>> taking classes with both Udacity and Coursera. >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "Clojure" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com >>>>>> Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient >>>>>> with your first post. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> clojure+unsubscribe@**googlegroups.com<clojure%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/**group/clojure?hl=en<http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Clojure" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com >>>> Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with >>>> your first post. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en >>>> >>> >>> >> >
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