I am sorry, You are correct. I see what you mean. I mis-interpreted meta() 
as returning an empty meta-map.

On Sunday, July 29, 2012 10:26:46 AM UTC+2, Per Mildner wrote:
>
> Thanks, but the question was not about the empty() methods.
>
> On Sunday, July 29, 2012 4:14:09 AM UTC+2, tbc++ wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 7:47 AM, Per Mildner wrote:
>>
>>> Looking at the persistent types  in clojure.lang.* 
>>> (PersistentVector.java et al.) I see several occurrences of the 
>>> idiom EMPTY.withMeta(meta()) where EMPTY is a constant (static final) 
>>> denoting an empty collection of the appropriate type.
>>>
>>> What I can not understand, given that these types are all persistent, is 
>>> why the EMPTY constant is, in effect, copied at most places where it is 
>>> used. Why not use the same EMPTY instance instead, i.e. 
>>> replace EMPTY.withMeta(meta()) with just EMPTY. Unless I miss something 
>>> this could not hurt and would save some time and space.
>>>
>>>
>> In this context, the empty() method does not mean "get an empty of this 
>> type", instead it means "empty this collection". So if we want to return a 
>> new collection that looks the same, except it is empty, then we need to 
>> pull in the metadata from the old collection.
>>
>> Example:
>>
>> => (meta (empty (with-meta [1 2 3] {:foo true})))
>> {:foo true}
>>
>>
>> Timothy
>>
>

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