Open source projects aren't the result of one person's activity. Other people are welcome to contribute. Noir isn't dead or anything, it's just slow at the moment.
Furthermore, yes, the website is outdated. I do not have access to the website in order to update it, and there hasn't been a non-beta release yet anyways. Chris has things he wanted to see done first, things I don't intend to do, so it's mostly waiting on that. You can certainly use Noir -- I've got two websites running on the latest beta version right now. lein2 works fine with it. Nothing to install, in fact. I am maintaining noir to the best of my ability. This mostly means I merge pull requests that make sense or ask Chris if they don't. But I don't have any time for it at all, so any time I do find is pretty rare. Besides that, I'm a bigger fan of Compojure these days. If the only argument for a framework over libraries is "newbies find it easier", I agree that documentation is the answer and not another monolithic framework. It isn't hard to use Compojure and other web development libraries. I don't think choice is an issue. You can find out what libraries are most common with simple google queries and common sense. On Friday, September 28, 2012 2:36:20 AM UTC-5, goracio wrote: > > Hi > So i'd like to point to the problem here. Clojure web framework in google > get these results, at least for me > 1. noir > 2. stackoverflow question 2008 year > 3. stackoverflow question 2010 year > 4. joodo ( outdated thing developed by one person) > 5. Compojure ( routing dsl) > So there is no popular framework these days for clojure. > Noir is mostly Chris Granger thing. As he make Lighttable today Noir > developed by some other people ( or may be on person not sure). Main site > instructions are nice but already outdated ( lein2). No news, no blog, no > new features, no examples, no infrastructure. Lein new project, insert noir > in dependencies and you don't have working app, you must add :main and > stuff to work. What about testing ? no info, no structure, decide on your > own. > It's no secret that web development today is biggest and popular trend. If > language and it's community have good web framework that language will gain > more popularity. > Take Ruby on rails it has over 30 core contributers, huuuge community, > active development, industry standart web development framework. Good > testing, development infrastracture, easy start, sprockets for js css > managment and so on. Also it has some books about testing and framework > itself which is good start point for newbies. > I like Clojure, for simplicity mostly. It has amazing power and i believe > it can be very good platform for web development. > So what i suggest : > Take 1 platform for web development in Clojure (for example noir as most > mature framework) . > Form working core group from 5-6 people. > Decide about name of the project ( or take Noir) > Make good site about it > Make a plan for development ( what core features should have first version) > Make first version > Make couple good examples > Make good documentation and maybe a book ( community book for example on > github that will be online and updated frequently). > -------------- > http://www.playframework.org/ good example what site could be > Alternative to online book can be guides, as for ruby on rails > http://guides.rubyonrails.org/index.html > Another good news that there is nice web IDE for Clojure by Bodil Stokke > https://github.com/bodil/catnip. Super easy install, very nice > insterface, reactive interface ( no need for browser refresh, autorecompile > when you save ) web based ! and under active development, just perfect > place for newbies to start. So this project also can be added to Clojure > Web framework project. > Also we have ClojureScript so Clojure web framework would be perfect place > where this thing can shine. > Let's discuss. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
