There is one more important difference between EPL and GPL/LGPL that we should 
be aware off:

You cannot copy snippets out of Philip's LGPL'ed code and use them in your own 
EPL'ed code.

For me, one of the great benefits of all the EPL'ed clojure libraries out there 
is, that I've freely borrowed and stolen many functions and snippets from 
libraries of coders much smarter than me…

This is just an observation and warning, and I do not want to engage in any 
religious open source licensing argument…

… however, from a personal benefit point of view, if you want to publish your 
code as open source for the clojure community, and you do not care too much 
about whether it should be EPL or GPL/LGPL, then please choose EPL. If you care 
strongly about GPL/LGPL, more power to you and thanks for sharing the library 
also!

Thanks, Frank.


On Feb 6, 2013, at 12:06 AM, Phillip Lord <phillip.l...@newcastle.ac.uk> wrote:

> 
> This should be fine. Both EPL and LGPL are weak copyleft. Clojure code
> does not need to be EPL because EPL does not force it. Likewise, Clojure
> can call back to this LGPL library because, the LGPL doesn't enforce
> derivative works as a whole to be LGPL (although modifications to the
> tawny *would* have to be LGPL, likewise, modified versions of Clojure).
> 
> The uber jar is a red herring, I think. It's an aggregation, not a
> derivative work. The same problem would exist even if I EPL'd the
> library; it uses the OWL API underneath, and this is LGPL also. 
> 
> If code written in Clojure were affected by the EPL, then it would have
> been a fairly poor choice of license, I feel. 
> 
> Phil
> 
> 
> AtKaaZ <atk...@gmail.com> writes:
> 
>> you can release that on LGPL License ?
>> does that work with the EPL of clojure ? or is it only an issue when lein
>> uberjar-ed ?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 5:57 PM, Phillip Lord
>> <phillip.l...@newcastle.ac.uk>wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tawny-OWL is a clojure library which provides a DSL for the construction
>>> of OWL Ontologies (http://www.w3.org/2004/OWL/). The practical upshot of
>>> this, is that allows a form of logic reasoning over sets of facts about
>>> the world, with strong computational guarantees about decidability.
>>> 
>>> At it's simplest it looks rather like the Manchester Syntax, but is
>>> fully programmatic language, which allows for arbitrary templating of
>>> expressions. Where possible, it uses clojure facilities directly, so
>>> things like autocomplete, and documentation look up work out-of-the-box,
>>> in what ever IDE is your poison.
>>> 
>>> It comes complete with reasoner support using HermiT
>>> (http://www.hermit-reasoner.com/) or ELK
>>> (http://code.google.com/p/elk-reasoner/). Tawny-OWL current implements
>>> all of the object and annotation side of OWL; expression of datatype
>>> properties will follow shortly.
>>> 
>>> Although, it's been available for a while, this is the first release
>>> that I have announced here. I'd welcome feedback. The Clojure is a bit
>>> nasty at places--I learnt the language at the same time.
>>> 
>>> https://github.com/phillord/tawny-owl
>>> 
>>> and on clojars.
>>> 
>>> Phil
>>> 
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