Thank you, good points! I lacked the imagination to seriously consider 
load-file. :) I'll practice using it.

Definitely will buy Brian Marick's book. [1] Pleasantly surprised to look 
through clojure-doc.org; probably confused it earlier with clojuredocs.org. 
:)


All the best,
  Tj

[1] Coincidentally, this week I'll be discussing Midje — very positively — 
at the local Clojure meeting group. I'd suspected that Clojure's 
unit-testing story was less than top-notch, but I was wrong — Midje easily 
dealt with everything I threw at it.


On Saturday, April 13, 2013 3:25:56 PM UTC+2, Wolodja Wentland wrote:
>
> On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 04:46 -0700, Tj Gabbour wrote: 
> > I am helping run a Clojure workshop for a company's employees. (We will 
> use 
> > Quil to program Conway's Game of Life, in pairs or small teams. We'll 
> first 
> > show people how to use a cheatsheet of Clojure forms, which they can cut 
> & 
> > paste and mold; and give them a repo with a basic framework for 
> programming 
> > Game of Life.) 
> > 
> > They will generally use: vim, Sumblime Text, TextMate. 
> > 
> > I'm sure my concerns are a bit overblown, but I'd like to at least 
> visualize 
> > myself helping participants have a tight edit-run-debug cycle, if they 
> wish. 
> > Hopefully something nicer than pasting code into a terminal's REPL, and 
> more 
> > interactive than constantly running from the commandline. Any tips? 
>
> vim, at least, supports Clojure development quite nicely. Take a look at: 
>
>     http://clojure-doc.org/articles/tutorials/vim_fireplace.html 
>
> to learn how to set it up. So you could prepare the environment for vim 
> (as 
> you already have done for Emacs) and make it easier for vim users to learn 
> the 
> actual language. I am not sure about Sublime Text or TextMate though, but 
> a 
> short query on google revealed at least: 
>
>     http://wbond.net/sublime_packages/package_control and 
>     https://github.com/wuub/SublimeREPL 
>
> The equivalent for TextMate seems to be no longer maintained, but you 
> might be 
> able to dig up something. 
>
> All that being said: I wouldn't necessarily focus too much on these 
> specific 
> tools (also /not/ Emacs), but simply show them how to load files in the 
> lein2 
> nrepl and take it from there. That way they can edit Clojure files with a 
> tool of their choice  and concentrate on learning the actual language 
> rather 
> than the tooling. It would still be nice if you installed the 
> respective syntax files for various editors beforehand so that syntax 
> highlighting and indentation works (maybe even paredit) as expected. 
>
> I can recommend Brian's jp-oo book [0] as a good example of this style of 
> teaching (and in general as well). 
>
> [0] https://leanpub.com/fp-oo 
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> Wolodja <bab...@gmail.com <javascript:>> 
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