Well, more seriously, I would be against any facility that prevents me from
doing something potentially useful that I might want to do.  Sprinkling
potential problem spots with io! might make more sense in an application
than a library.


On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Gary Trakhman <gary.trakh...@gmail.com>wrote:

> What if you really want the 'bad' effects on retries?  We need io!
> versions and non-io! versions of side-effect functions :-)
>
>
> On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Sean Corfield <seancorfi...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 1:10 AM, Alex Baranosky
>> <alexander.barano...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Do any of you ever use io! ?  I've never used it, but could see using
>> it if
>> > I had a transaction-heavy application.
>> >
>> > On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 11:43 PM, Michael Klishin
>> > <michael.s.klis...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> The point is to mark side-effecting code so that you can't accidentally
>> >> use it in a transaction.
>>
>> I gather the intent is for *all* side-effecting code to be wrapped in
>> io! so that you can't accidentally use it with STM transactions?
>>
>> The only places in Clojure and its contribs that use this are:
>> * await - clojure.core
>> * await-for - clojure.core
>> * transaction - java.jdbc (deprecated)
>> * db-transaction - java.jdbc
>>
>> It sounds like all inserts and updates in java.jdbc should also be
>> wrapped in io! and I would expect io! to be needed in a lot of other
>> places in Clojure libraries across the board...?
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