Thanks for the link. :) I understand that the behavior I'm seeing is
correct. Any idea how to achieve the desired behavior, though?


On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Timothy Baldridge <tbaldri...@gmail.com>wrote:

> The answer is here:
>
>
> https://github.com/clojure/clojure/blob/master/src/jvm/clojure/lang/LockingTransaction.java#L361
>
> Agents and watches are dispatched outside of the transaction locking. This
> means that multiple transactions could be executing watches in parallel,
> and hence execute out of order.
>
> Timothy Baldridge
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 9:43 AM, Michael Drogalis <madrush...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> I can precisely exemplify the behavior here:
>>
>> https://gist.github.com/MichaelDrogalis/6123177
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, July 31, 2013 11:13:17 AM UTC-4, Michael Drogalis wrote:
>>>
>>> Aaron: Yep, I'm aware - and am using the value provided by the last
>>> parameter.
>>>
>>> This is going to be tough to show the problem without bringing more
>>> details of my concurrency set up.
>>> I'm not sure if this will exhibit the problem, but this is what it boils
>>> down to:
>>>
>>> https://gist.github.com/**MichaelDrogalis/6122834<https://gist.github.com/MichaelDrogalis/6122834>
>>>
>>> When enough threads are trying to write to the queue, the watches
>>> triggered later can finish before watches triggered earlier.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, July 31, 2013 11:05:16 AM UTC-4, Aaron Cohen wrote:
>>>>
>>>> A watcher fn has 4 parameters: key, reference, old-state, new-state
>>>>
>>>> If you use old-state and new-state rather than the reference, you
>>>> should not see your problem.
>>>>
>>>> --Aaron
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 11:00 AM, Michael Drogalis 
>>>> <madru...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Problem:
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a ref representing a queue of people in line.
>>>>> I add a watch to the ref to print out the contents of the queue
>>>>> whenever it changes.
>>>>> Naturally, and expected, the following can happen if queuing happens
>>>>> in rapid succession:
>>>>>
>>>>> Queue: []
>>>>> <add "Mike" to queue>
>>>>> <add "John" to queue>
>>>>>
>>>>> console: "Queue is Mike, John"
>>>>> console: "Queue is Mike"
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd like to write a UI for this program, but I clearly can't reliably
>>>>> render based on the result delivered
>>>>> by the add-watch hook. What's the solution for this problem?
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